Saved vs striving to be saved??

[Truthseeker]

This is an off shoot from the standards thread.

Usually when an apostolic is asked if they are saved the answer a lot of times is "I am striving to be saved". I think this comes from not knowing the gospel and what really happened at the cross and what Christ has done for us.

Many times Paul uses word "saved" in regards to the saints.

What think ye? are you saved or striving to get saved?

[Pliny]

The mature think this way:
Php 3:7 But whatever gain I had, I counted as loss for the sake of Christ.
Php 3:8 Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord. For his sake I have suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish, in order that I may gain Christ
Php 3:9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith--
Php 3:10 that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,
Php 3:11 that by any means possible I may attain the resurrection from the dead.
Php 3:12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own.
Php 3:13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead,
Php 3:14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
Php 3:15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

[Truthseeker]

Pliny, are you working to get salvation?

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Pliny, are you working to get salvation?

All my righteousness is a s filthy rags.
Interesting you apparently did not like the scripture posted.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Pliny

All my righteousness is a s filthy rags.
Interesting you apparently did not like the scripture posted.

Pliny I love that scripture. He is talking about dirty menstrual cloths. It reminds me how good our God is and great is His grace towards us.

[Pliny]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Pliny I love that scripture. He is talking about dirty menstrual cloths. It reminds me how good our God is and great is His grace towards us.

Amen. I was trying to keep it "G" not "PG".

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Pliny

Amen. I was trying to keep it "G" not "PG".

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Pliny I love that scripture. He is talking about dirty menstrual cloths. It reminds me how good our God is and great is His grace towards us.

actually grace is simply favor which is given to us as a provision. It has nothing to do with having righteousness bestowed without proper response to God or God allowing or considering you in a position of FAITHFUL/RIGHTEOUS while IN unrepentant sin. God's justice has not changed concerned how people stand before him when it comes to covenant obligations. That response includes covenant requirements that you have and are responsible to do. Jesus is very clear on this about following him and giving up all.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

actually grace is simply favor which is given to us as a provision. It has nothing to do with having righteousness bestowed without proper response to God or gGod allowing or considering you in a position of FAITHFUL/RIGHTEOUS while IN unrepentant sin. God's justice has not changed concerned how people stand before him when it comes to covenant obligations. That response includes covenant requirements that you have and are responsible to do. Jesus is very clear on this about following him and giving up all.

Grace drives us to our knees in repentance of sin. Grace brought me out.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Pliny

All my righteousness is a s filthy rags.
Interesting you apparently did not like the scripture posted.

I like all scripture, now understanding them and put them together is the crux. Not sure how you get those scriptures means Paul was striving to be saved