The Anointed Jesus?

larrylyates · #1 03-30-2013, 02:16 PM

Ok, here goes another: There is a teaching, very popular in certain circles that posits the understanding that while on Earth, Jesus did not function in any capacity as God, but simply as a man anointed by the Holy Ghost. The corollary is that we are now able to function in the same way. I am interested in your thoughts on this issue, being an Apostolic.

seekerman · #2 03-30-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by larrylyates

Ok, here goes another: There is a teaching, very popular in certain circles that posits the understanding that while on Earth, Jesus did not function in any capacity as God, but simply as a man anointed by the Holy Ghost. The corollary is that we are now able to function in the same way. I am interested in your thoughts on this issue, being an Apostolic.

As an Apostolic who doesn't believe Jesus is God but does believe Jesus is the Christ, I find that someone anointed someone else. You're slightly off with your statement that "simply a man anointed by the Holy Ghost". Scripture differs with that statement....

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Jesus was anointed by God WITH the Holy Ghost. Jesus wasn't anointed BY the Holy Ghost.

Dedicated Mind · #3 03-30-2013, 04:18 PM

John 3:33-35

King James Version (KJV)

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

i think v34 is clear that christ had the spirit without measure and that we have a measure of the spirit. miracles are a work of the spirit operating in us and not something we can produce from effort. i do think that deepening our consciousness of the implications that the kingdom of god is present in the here and now can affect our measure of the spirit. by that i mean practicing justice to the poor and oppressed.

Jay · #4 03-30-2013, 05:20 PM

The Bible states that the Word was God, and took on flesh. Jesus Christ was this Word. Thus Paul can say, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

FlamingZword · #5 03-31-2013, 11:10 PM

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The Bible states that the Word was God, and took on flesh. Jesus Christ was this Word. Thus Paul can say, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

(((ECHO)))

Praxeas · #6 03-31-2013, 11:17 PM

seekerman · #7 04-01-2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

The Bible states that the Word was God, and took on flesh. Jesus Christ was this Word. Thus Paul can say, "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."

The bible states that the Word was with God. The bible states that the same was in the beginning with God. The bible states that Jesus and Mary shared the same God and Father. The bible also states that Jesus was one with His Father. The bible states that Jesus was the Son of His Father.

The bible states a bunch of stuff about Jesus and His, and Mary's, Father and God.

Ain't nothing like a Godhead discussion for the 3,251st time!!

Originalist · #8 04-08-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seekerman

The bible states that the Word was with God. The bible states that the same was in the beginning with God. The bible states that Jesus and Mary shared the same God and Father. The bible also states that Jesus was one with His Father. The bible states that Jesus was the Son of His Father.

The bible states a bunch of stuff about Jesus and His, and Mary's, Father and God.

Ain't nothing like a Godhead discussion for the 3,251st time!!

I John 1 also tells us that the "Word" was "the ETERNAL LIFE which was with the Father" and that this eternal life took shape before us.

seekerman · #9 04-08-2013, 02:53 PM

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I John 1 also tells us that the "Word" was "the ETERNAL LIFE which was with the Father" and that this eternal life took shape before us.

Yep, someone was with someone else. Amen brother!!

sbo1971 · #10 03-31-2013, 10:10 AM

Maybe I'm am misunderstanding what you are saying but here it goes; if this was true then it does not change the fact that Jesus was/is God in the flesh and that He healed the sick, raised the dead and etc... but by His death, burial, and resurrection did He not function as God since ONLY God can bring salvation? As far as we being able to function in the same manner; didn't Jesus say "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."?