Still Believe In Final Salvation?

Michael The Disciple · #1 03-01-2013, 07:20 AM

Many Pentecostals no longer seem to believe we need to be "finally saved". I mean like Yeshua said:

9Then shall they deliver you upto be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.10And then shall many be offended , and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.11And many false prophets shall rise , and shall deceive many.12And because iniquity shall abound , the love of many shall wax cold .13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved .

If one endures to the end THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED.

Seems to me like their is INITIAL salvation and there is FINAL salvation.

What do you think?

houston · #2 03-01-2013, 07:31 AM

Isn't once enough?

Hoovie · #3 03-01-2013, 07:34 AM

Endurance is required!

Evang.Benincasa · #4 03-01-2013, 07:35 AM

I thought all we needed to do was to speak Hebrew?

houston · #5 03-01-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I thought all we needed to do was to speak Hebrew?

And write in PaleoHebrew.

Evang.Benincasa · #6 03-01-2013, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

And write in PaleoHebrew.

Cave paintings.

Aquila · #7 03-01-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Cave paintings.

Aquila · #8 03-01-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I thought all we needed to do was to speak Hebrew?

houston · #9 03-01-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoovie

Endurance is required!

He that is saved shall endure until the end.

Aquila · #10 03-01-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by houston

He that is saved shall endure until the end.

Depends on perspective.

Remember, there is a temporal, or human, perspective and a divine perspective. God, knowing all things, already knows who are His and will therefore endure unto the end. Thus to God, yes, the saved will endure. However, from a human perspective, we are trapped in time and do not know the future. Therefore, we must endure if we wish to be counted among those that God already knows will endure and counts as being saved.

Again, categorical logic and reasoning is a necessity to reconcile the mysteries of God.

When seeking truth that extends beyond time and space, one must be able to think multidimensionally. Sometimes two truths that appear to be contradictory are actually a single reality viewed from different points of reference. If we fail to think in this way... we become hardcore Reformed believers or Legalists... and miss the point.