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Old 01-26-2013, 05:50 AM
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Have you accepted Jesus?

I was having a conversation with a new friend yesterday, and we were discussing the bible. She is an AOG pentecostal.

She wanted to know if I had accepted Jesus. I told her I had repented of my sins and received the Holy Ghost when I was Eleven thinking that would answer the question. She still wanted to know if I had accepted Jesus.

Are there people who think that you can be filled with the Holy Ghost, but not have "accepted Jesus?"
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:23 AM
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I was having a conversation with a new friend yesterday, and we were discussing the bible. She is an AOG pentecostal.

She wanted to know if I had accepted Jesus. I told her I had repented of my sins and received the Holy Ghost when I was Eleven thinking that would answer the question. She still wanted to know if I had accepted Jesus.

Are there people who think that you can be filled with the Holy Ghost, but not have "accepted Jesus?"
Yep watched my daughter get Baptized with the Holy Ghost and she was and is unsaved as in that she does not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Amanah do you go to a UPC or Oneness church???? Do you keep the standards of holiness as prescribed in many churches of that persuasion???
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:44 AM
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Yep watched my daughter get Baptized with the Holy Ghost and she was and is unsaved as in that she does not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Amanah do you go to a UPC or Oneness church???? Do you keep the standards of holiness as prescribed in many churches of that persuasion???
And yet, I also know of folks who have "accepted Jesus"
and still don't seem to have a personal relationship with Him.
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And yet, I also know of folks who have "accepted Jesus"
and still don't seem to have a personal relationship with Him.
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Yep watched my daughter get Baptized with the Holy Ghost and she was and is unsaved as in that she does not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Amanah do you go to a UPC or Oneness church???? Do you keep the standards of holiness as prescribed in many churches of that persuasion???
How can someone receive the HG and NOT have a "personal relationship" with Jesus?

If someone can receive the HG and still NOT be saved, that also destroys the anti-baptism argument that Cornelius and his household were saved before being baptized
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:18 PM
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How can someone receive the HG and NOT have a "personal relationship" with Jesus?

If someone can receive the HG and still NOT be saved, that also destroys the anti-baptism argument that Cornelius and his household were saved before being baptized
Praxeas she was just going to church with me and the Holy Ghost fell. I was at the altar and I looked back at her and her hands were raised and she was weeping and she was loosing her English. Who knows maybe she was repenting for her sins and God chose that moment to Baptize her with the Holy Ghost. Unless it was an external experience.

In all your years have you not seen the Holy Ghost fall on someone that you knew was not saved and have them speak in tongues???

I see from another view maybe this destroys the Holy Ghost baptism with initial evidence for Salvation.
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Old 01-26-2013, 02:24 PM
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[QUOTE=navygoat1998;1217438]Praxeas she was just going to church with me and the Holy Ghost fell. I was at the altar and I looked back at her and her hands were raised and she was weeping and she was loosing her English. Who knows maybe she was repenting for her sins and God chose that moment to Baptize her with the Holy Ghost. Unless it was an external experience.

In all your years have you not seen the Holy Ghost fall on someone that you knew was not saved and have them speak in tongues???[/Q

In my travels Im seeing more and more experiences like your daughters. Holy Spirit "falling" on people rather than ministers coaching them and "working them over" in the altar to be moved enough emotionally to receive the Spirit.
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Yep watched my daughter get Baptized with the Holy Ghost and she was and is unsaved as in that she does not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

Amanah do you go to a UPC or Oneness church???? Do you keep the standards of holiness as prescribed in many churches of that persuasion???
im lost.

which step is that?
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im lost.

which step is that?
I am just trying to fit in by adding steps to the plan of Salvation.
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im lost.

which step is that?
He is not her Lord and Savior. Never was but He will be one day because she has a daddy that loves her much and spends much time in prayer interceding for her.
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