Socialist Venezuela

[Praxeas]

Just a thought but if it's so great why does El Presidente go to Cuba for cancer treatments and not his own healthcare system?

BTW if Chavez dies the next in line to be El Presidente is a bus driver.....

Chavez named Maduro, his longtime foreign minister, as his choice for vice president three days after winning re-election. Maduro, a burly former bus driver, has shown unflagging loyalty and become a leading spokesman for Venezuela's socialist leader in recent years

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12...#ixzz2EXbZGd4C

Chavez's Social revolution will die with him

[Dedicated Mind]

socialism in venezuela will not die with chavez. there is a socialist constitution that will require a majority of the population to change. chavez will become a martyr greater than life. there is a socialist in ecuador and bolivia, center left governments in brazil, chile, argentina and uruguay. cuba is introducing market reforms and obama is president. the left will never die. keep dreaming.

[Dedicated Mind]

The Constitution of 1999 was the first constitution approved by popular referendum in Venezuelan history, and summarily inaugurated the so-called "Fifth Republic" of Venezuela due to the socioeconomic changes foretold in its pages, as well as the official change in Venezuela's name from the República de Venezuela ("Republic of Venezuela") to the República Bolivariana de Venezuela ("Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela"). Major changes are made to the structure of Venezuela's government and responsibilities, while a much greater number of human rights are enshrined in the document as guaranteed to all Venezuelans – including free education up to tertiary level, free quality health care, access to a clean environment, right of minorities (especially indigenous peoples) to uphold their own traditional cultures, religions, and languages, among others. The 1999 Constitution, with 350 articles, is among the world's longest, most complicated, and most comprehensive constitutions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Venezuela

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

The Constitution of 1999 was the first constitution approved by popular referendum in Venezuelan history, and summarily inaugurated the so-called "Fifth Republic" of Venezuela due to the socioeconomic changes foretold in its pages, as well as the official change in Venezuela's name from the República de Venezuela ("Republic of Venezuela") to the República Bolivariana de Venezuela ("Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela"). Major changes are made to the structure of Venezuela's government and responsibilities, while a much greater number of human rights are enshrined in the document as guaranteed to all Venezuelans – including free education up to tertiary level, free quality health care, access to a clean environment, right of minorities (especially indigenous peoples) to uphold their own traditional cultures, religions, and languages, among others. The 1999 Constitution, with 350 articles, is among the world's longest, most complicated, and most comprehensive constitutions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Venezuela

If it's quality health care why does Chavez fly to Cuba for treatment? Presumably to get better treatment than the poor Venezuelans

Everyone get's health care free, sure. But it's substandard healthcare unless you are of the special class that Chavez is who can afford to fly to Cuba

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

socialism in venezuela will not die with chavez. there is a socialist constitution that will require a majority of the population to change. chavez will become a martyr greater than life. there is a socialist in ecuador and bolivia, center left governments in brazil, chile, argentina and uruguay. cuba is introducing market reforms and obama is president. the left will never die. keep dreaming.

How is Health care in Venezuela? Do the down trodden get a free plane ride to Cuba for treatment or is that reserved for the Elitists like Chavez?

A Martyr for dying from Cancer for the Socialist religion? rofl

A martyr (Greek: μάρτυς, mártys, "witness"; stem μάρτυρ-, mártyr-) is somebody who suffers persecution and death for refusing to renounce, or accept, a belief or cause, usually religious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martyr

He is not a martyr

[Dedicated Mind]

Left-populist leaders such as Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, Bolivia’s Evo Morales, and Ecuador’s Rafael Correa have won at the polls in the past decade by railing against their country’s economic elites and promising to re-slice the pie in favor of the masses.
By directing more of their nations’ resource wealth to social spending, they have eased poverty and invested billions into health care, education and other services.


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...-success-story

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Left-populist leaders such as Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, Bolivia’s Evo Morales, and Ecuador’s Rafael Correa have won at the polls in the past decade by railing against their country’s economic elites and promising to re-slice the pie in favor of the masses.
By directing more of their nations’ resource wealth to social spending, they have eased poverty and invested billions into health care, education and other services.


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...-success-story

How many Venezuelan refugees do you talk to here in the States? Obviously none. They tell a different story.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Left-populist leaders such as Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, Bolivia’s Evo Morales, and Ecuador’s Rafael Correa have won at the polls in the past decade by railing against their country’s economic elites and promising to re-slice the pie in favor of the masses.
By directing more of their nations’ resource wealth to social spending, they have eased poverty and invested billions into health care, education and other services.


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/n...-success-story

Exactly! Class Warfare...Down with the evil rich. Why do Liberals HATE the rich? You said they don't but the above says otherwise

But what happens? Everyone is made equally poor except these few in power and their friends. That is an Oligarchy.

All that happened was a shift in wealth and power to the government. They live like kings. The poor remain poor but now they eat cake and Big Macs for free and shake their fists at their imaginary enemies

[Sister Alvear]

pretty cover...however a nightmare reality....

[deacon blues]

I will say we have a Venezuelan couple attending our church and they love Chavez. the wife is a professor at a university and the husband is a police officer. I really love these people, they love our church and we are good friends. When I first met them I brought up Chavez and I discovered quickly that they liked Hugo. They also were clear they didn't like Bush, they really like Obama. So Chavez/Obama fit their political ideology I guess. I've often wondered, but haven't asked, of they loved Chavez so much why did they move to the USA and become US citizens. In many South American, Latin American countries when there was free market capitalism, the people in charge were so corrupt, and so ruthless to the average citizen, they grew to hate the ruling classes. Chavez is the product of a childhood of poverty, he's one of the people, and the vast majority, by and large coming from humble roots sees him as one of their own. Their form of socialism is different from other places where it has failed because it's propped up by their robust oil industry that is owned by the government. Free healthcare and education and services are paid for by the oil industry.

Of course, Cavez illegally nationalized the Venezuelan oil. When he did the country owed an American oil company $241 million. He simply stole their rights to the contracts they had signed and had invested in. Ultimately Venezuela wrote off about $10 billion in contractual debts owed to foreign companies. Chavez eventually stole oil rigs, oil terminals and boats all owned, bought and paid for by private companies.

An article from the NY Times from 2006 said "While the new projects up for bid would be assembled in the Orinoco Belt, an area with an enormous hydrocarbon reserve in southern Venezuela, the seizure of the contractors’ assets on Friday took place largely in Zulia, in western Venezuela, where some of the country’s oldest oil wells are located.

Zulia is also a bastion of opposition to Mr. Chávez. Resentment has been festering against the president there since corruption charges were brought against Manuel Rosales, a leading opposition figure who ran against Mr. Chávez for president in 2006 and was elected mayor of Maracaibo last year. Mr. Rosales fled to Peru last month rather than submit to an order for his arrest to face corruption charges.

Mr. Chávez will expand his power in Zulia with the takeover of the contractors by his loyalists, but it is a move that could heighten tension in one of the most strategically important states.

“They want to come for all of Zulia,” said Néstor Borjas, a leader in Fedecámaras, a regional business association in western Venezuela.

“They come with their soldiers from the National Guard, and they take what they want,” he said, “and you, as the owner of your company, can do absolutely nothing.”

The article said 93% of Venezuela's exports is oil. Without the oil, Chavez couldn't do a majority of what he's doing for the people.

Chavez is a thug. He's as corrupt as those he replaced. Only he maintains control by giving away a bunch of freebies.

Sound familiar?