The Oneness Anti "Christ" doctrine ....

[SDG]

I remember, in the early 1990's, here in Houston, there were a group of ultraconservative churches headed by some extreme pastors who were killing the rest of the Spanish-speaking fellowship for using the word "Cristo" or Christ.

They believed that those who used the term lacked revelation and were somehow unholy being that Jesus is his name. Christ was reference to his flesh .... They asserted that after the resurrection, and his subsequent glorification, he was no longer the Christ [flesh] .... the Christ died at Calvary.

They even formulated a well-thought out doctrine to support this belief. They sought to lift the name of Jesus Christ and shunned those that used "Christ" in their testimonies, songs, or preachings.

Dozens of songs containing Christ/Cristo were edited and the name Jesus replaced the blasphemous lyrics .... even if it disregarded rhyme or the author's intent

It was their new "revelation", and air of higher spirituality, that brought huge division and problems to the Spanish work especially here in the Houston area.

Ironically, some of these ministers leading "the revelation" were dealing with other immoral issues.

Even today, this teaching is pervasive in many Spanish speaking churches, especially here in the South.

I also recall Bishop Scotty Teets stating that this teaching was formulated many years ago by an American pastor ... does anyone know anything about the genesis of this teaching ?

[Sam]

Dan,
I don't know anything about that particular teaching or emphasis.
But, just as the term "God" can be pretty generic and used by unbelievers, modernists and new agers, so can the term "Christ." The term "Christ" can be used in a way that applies to and lumps together all different folks that were teachers, moralists, reformers, humanists, etc. Gautama Buddha, Confucius, Mahatma Ghandi, Mohammed, etc can all be considered anointed teachers or christs by folks like Oprah, Shirley McLaine, etc.

Yes, Jesus was and still is the Christ/Messiah/Anointed One and we can call Him that. But His name (and God's highest name) is Jesus. Terms like God and Christ can be awfully generic, but if we call Him Jesus Christ it has a little more power.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Sam

Dan,
I don't know anything about that particular teaching or emphasis.
But, just as the term "God" can be pretty generic and used by unbelievers, modernists and new agers, so can the term "Christ." The term "Christ" can be used in a way that applies to and lumps together all different folks that were teachers, moralists, reformers, humanists, etc. Gautama Buddha, Confucius, Mahatma Ghandi, Mohammed, etc can all be considered anointed teachers or christs by folks like Oprah, Shirley McLaine, etc.

Yes, Jesus was and still is the Christ/Messiah/Anointed One and we can call Him that. But His name (and God's highest name) is Jesus. Terms like God and Christ can be awfully generic, but if we call Him Jesus Christ it has a little more power.

Recently a friend told me that he is sometimes feels a little uncomfortable if someone uses Christ too much in their dialogue .... Does anyone else feel this way also?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Recently a friend told me that he is sometimes feels a little uncomfortable if someone uses Christ too much in their dialogue .... Does anyone else feel this way also?

Yes, it bothers me when people speak about "God" and/or "Christ" but don't use His name --Jesus. I don't know if I explained my feelings about that in my post or not but "Christ" is something Oprah and other newagers would use. Spritualists and witches could use the term "Christ" also. Maybe I'm off here and maybe I'm not explaining it well.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Recently a friend told me that he is sometimes feels a little uncomfortable if someone uses Christ too much in their dialogue .... Does anyone else feel this way also?

No and how can they say Jesus Christ is his name and say Christ is not? contradiction

Also how do they explain the word Christ being used AFTER the resurrection by the Apostles?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No and how can they say Jesus Christ is his name and say Christ is not? contradiction

Also how do they explain the word Christ being used AFTER the resurrection by the Apostles?

I didn't say I could explain this farce ....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I didn't say I could explain this farce ....

Right....uh...that IS why I said "they"

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Recently a friend told me that he is sometimes feels a little uncomfortable if someone uses Christ too much in their dialogue .... Does anyone else feel this way also?

A million times no. It may be a throw-back from the same idea (false, in my opinion) presented, even here by some, that there is no humanity in Jesus today.

[Scott Hutchinson]

DAN I think this is really referred to as Jesus Only.
The Jesus Only group baptizes saying In The Name Of Jesus and not Jesus Christ because they say that the name Christ glorifies the flesh of Jesus.
Of course Christ means Messiah or anointed one ,there were and are many Jesuses in the world and false messiahs or Christs but there was only virgin borned Messiah Jesus The Christ.
I think the Jesus Only group teaches that when Jesus was here on the earth ,Heaven was vacant of God.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

DAN I think this is really referred to as Jesus Only.
The Jesus Only group baptizes saying In The Name Of Jesus and not Jesus Christ because they say that the name Christ glorifies the flesh of Jesus.
Of course Christ means Messiah or anointed one ,there were and are many Jesuses in the world and false messiahs or Christs but there was only virgin borned Messiah Jesus The Christ.
I think the Jesus Only group teaches that when Jesus was here on the earth ,Heaven was vacant of God.

Scott,
There are several OP organizations around that use "Church of Jesus Christ" in their organization name and as the name for their local churches. Their take on the name is a little different than what you mention. Some of them teach that Jesus is His human name and Christ is His divine name. One Scripture they use is "Many shall come in my name saying I am Christ," and to them that means His name is Christ. Also, in Matthew 1:4 they see His name as Christ (God) before He was born but in Matthew 1:21 they see Him named Jesus (human) after He was born. To them His name is "Jesus Christ" nothing more and nothing less. Jesus is His "given name" or "first name" and Christ is His "family name" or "last name." I don't believe that way but I still like to hear Him called "Jesus" and called "Jesus Christ."