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Old 06-25-2012, 06:57 PM
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Attending a new church -UPCI Affiliation- the Paster used the "S" word to illustrate how shocked we as Christians should feel with the use of profanity. I am still in shock? Any suggestions how to deal with this, for ex. ignore, look for another church, pray for direction?
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:09 PM
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Attending a new church -UPCI Affiliation- the Paster used the "S" word to illustrate how shocked we as Christians should feel with the use of profanity. I am still in shock? Any suggestions how to deal with this, for ex. ignore, look for another church, pray for direction?
Throw profanity back at him, only worse. See how high it can escalate!

J/K. I really don't know what the deal is with "bad words", anyway, so I don't think I have any advice for you. Good advice, anyway.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:49 PM
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I think he was trying to make a point, so you might overlook it. If it happens again, maybe he has a problem.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:41 PM
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If he did it over the pulpit, I'd call him out on it.

I've been taught to reverence the House of God. The pulpit is a sacred desk that should be treated with honor and respect. Cursing or using profanity over the pulpit is unacceptable.
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If he did it over the pulpit, I'd call him out on it.

I've been taught to reverence the House of God. The pulpit is a sacred desk that should be treated with honor and respect. Cursing or using profanity over the pulpit is unacceptable.
Even if a word is uttered that is considered perfectly acceptable in, lets say, Iceland, but isn't here?

An example: My pastors brother when on a missionary trip in Iceland for several months. He very quickly discovered that they had no word for manure there other than s**t. It WAS a proper noun said by young and old alike.

Of course he used it in private conversation upon returning when talking about his experiences. Lets just say that a few belly laughs en-soughed.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:14 AM
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Even if a word is uttered that is considered perfectly acceptable in, lets say, Iceland, but isn't here?

An example: My pastors brother when on a missionary trip in Iceland for several months. He very quickly discovered that they had no word for manure there other than s**t. It WAS a proper noun said by young and old alike.

Of course he used it in private conversation upon returning when talking about his experiences. Lets just say that a few belly laughs en-soughed.

Bro. Jeff Arnold did something similar while in Scotland preaching their General Conference.

The American definition for fanny is our rear-end. The Scottish definition for fanny is the female genital area. He used it in his sermon and the entire congregation was horrified.

But in your context, no that'd be something completely different.
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:13 AM
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Re: Pastor's use of profanity

Reminds me of a Tony Campolo quote.

Dr. Anthony "Tony" Campolo (born February 25, 1935) an American pastor, sociologist, author, and speaker stated:

"I have three things I'd like to say today. First, while you were sleeping last night, 30,000 kids died of starvation or diseases related to malnutrition. Second, most of you don't give a s--t. What's worse is that you're more upset with the fact that I said s--t than the fact that 30,000 kids died last night."
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Even if a word is uttered that is considered perfectly acceptable in, lets say, Iceland, but isn't here?

An example: My pastors brother when on a missionary trip in Iceland for several months. He very quickly discovered that they had no word for manure there other than s**t. It WAS a proper noun said by young and old alike.

Of course he used it in private conversation upon returning when talking about his experiences. Lets just say that a few belly laughs en-soughed.
Gestures mean different things in different cultures, too.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:33 PM
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Gestures mean different things in different cultures, too.
It is particularly funny when someone of an older generation tries to describe and ultimately show a "gesture" that another driver gave them on the highway for doing who-knows-what (knowing the people, driving two slow in the left lane).
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If he did it over the pulpit, I'd call him out on it.

I've been taught to reverence the House of God. The pulpit is a sacred desk that should be treated with honor and respect. Cursing or using profanity over the pulpit is unacceptable.
I have been taught the same. UNfortunately, the church building isn't the "House of God"...WE ARE. The Pulpit isn't sacred...it didn't exist in church for centuries and came out of paganism. Cursing is pronouncing a curse...cussing is just using colorful adjectives that someone decided at some point to be "bad words". And profanity by definition is somethign profane. Most "cuss" words are not profane things but rather just different words for normal things.

Not that I support cussing and such, but we hang on to stupid traditional reasoning in so many areas it drives me insane. Like God REALLY cares if I say excrement, poo poo or the "S" word. Or if I say "Oh shucky darn" or drop an "F bomb" if I smash my finger with a hammer.
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