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06-22-2012, 01:42 PM
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Political, but not Racial
I just read an article where there are folks on the left, to include AG Holder himself, are attributing race to the apparent "witch hunt" the GOP is conducting concerning the "Fast and Furious" project.
The information that Rep Issa is asking for actually has very little to do with the actual incident that sparked all of the quesitons in the first place-- the murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent by an American firearm that once was the property of the U.S. Government.
The information in question has to do with events that transpired two months after operation "Fast and Furious" was halted. From what I've read, this appears to be a routine disagreement between Congress and the White House.
However, the timing of this scandal couldn't be any more perfect for the GOP who may be bent on embarassing AG Holder and the President.
The next major move for the GOP would be to actually arrest AG Holder.
I hope they do not take their political charade that far, but if they do, it won't be racially motivated. It will be politically motivated and a very politically ugly thing to do-- especially over something that really isn't connected to a very tragic death of a U. S. Border Patrol agent by an American weapon.
AG Gonzalez was not a good man. He really wasn't. He and Cheney tried to pressure the former AG into signing documents that would have made the Patriot Act more oppresive than it already was, while AG Ashcroft was very ill on his hosptial bed.
Rumsfield was not a good man-- don't get me started!
When the Dems pursued these bandits, no one called the race card. Now in these situations, it was very clear that these yahoos and their actions appeared illegal, unethical, and even if they did nothing wrong, they were lightning rods for criticism for a President that was widely unpopular years before he left office.
Although AG Holder's actions don't appear to be on the same level as the screw ups of Rumsfield and Gonzalez, the GOP's "witch hunt" concerning operation "Fast and Furious" shouldn't be viewed through the lens of racism.
This is political, but not racial.
It's a politcal witch hunt for sure and while the arrest of AG Holder would be unprecedented in about 80 years, and uncalled for, it wouldn't shock me one bit.
It's election time, the GOP nominee for President has a tepid reception among most Americans (despite the sputtering American economy) and the GOP is thirsty for revenge.
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06-22-2012, 03:17 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
Jd your absolute ignorance on this is unbeleiavble this operation was a blatant attempt to prove we NEED/FORCE gun control in this country which Obama has bragged that he is doing, they didnt count on an american getting shot ,and who cares about 175 mexican families that have been shot as a result of this bogus operation ,wake up and read something instead of spouting dem talking points !!!!~! IMPEACH OBAMA AND JAIL HOLDER
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06-22-2012, 03:19 PM
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06-24-2012, 12:52 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
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Jd your absolute ignorance on this is unbeleiavble this operation was a blatant attempt to prove we NEED/FORCE gun control in this country which Obama has bragged that he is doing, they didnt count on an american getting shot ,and who cares about 175 mexican families that have been shot as a result of this bogus operation ,wake up and read something instead of spouting dem talking points !!!!~! IMPEACH OBAMA AND JAIL HOLDER
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canam,
You believe the lies of the fear mongerers and those who oppose the President just because they want to oppose him-- regardless of fact or intent..
This is not about gun control or taking away your right to bear arms.
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06-24-2012, 02:02 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
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canam,
You believe the lies of the fear mongerers and those who oppose the President just because they want to oppose him-- regardless of fact or intent..
This is not about gun control or taking away your right to bear arms.
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It most certainly is, Eric bag holder said it was the only way to force americans to believe it was needed and barck said he was working on it behind the scenes to sarah brady.
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06-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
The OTHER Eric Holder Scandal
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is in the spotlight after the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted to hold him in contempt because he is refusing to provide documents related to the Fast and the Furious scandal. But there's another scandal you should know about. For over one year, he has refused to hand over documents about the Muslim Brotherhood network in the U.S.
"They are terrorists, and we wanted the documents you gave to the terrorists. We are a year later, and we still don't have them," complained Rep. Gohmert. Holder replied that he'd only provide what is already available publicly.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org...#ixzz1ypFf9i3a
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06-25-2012, 12:50 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
JD did you forget that Obama ran on the premise that he would have a very transparent government?
He is the least transparent of any President.
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06-25-2012, 01:20 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
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The OTHER Eric Holder Scandal
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder is in the spotlight after the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted to hold him in contempt because he is refusing to provide documents related to the Fast and the Furious scandal. But there's another scandal you should know about. For over one year, he has refused to hand over documents about the Muslim Brotherhood network in the U.S.
"They are terrorists, and we wanted the documents you gave to the terrorists. We are a year later, and we still don't have them," complained Rep. Gohmert. Holder replied that he'd only provide what is already available publicly.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org...#ixzz1ypFf9i3a
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06-22-2012, 04:37 PM
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Re: Political, but not Racial
JD, JD - Roger Clemens faced 5 years for the crime of lying to Congress. The AG has twice lied to Congress, proven lies, which he has had to retract what he said, regarding F & F.
What punishment should he face?
It is very easy to say that this is just another political squabble between the parties.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
This is another attempt to cover up the real reason for F & F and an attempt to cover up how high this operation went.
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06-24-2012, 12:53 PM
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JD, JD - Roger Clemens faced 5 years for the crime of lying to Congress. The AG has twice lied to Congress, proven lies, which he has had to retract what he said, regarding F & F.
What punishment should he face?
It is very easy to say that this is just another political squabble between the parties.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
This is another attempt to cover up the real reason for F & F and an attempt to cover up how high this operation went.
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Lies or mistakes?
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