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Old 05-01-2012, 09:41 PM
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Truth Obscured

Not only do we seek truth, but truth is actively obscured to us.

(I think the natural human reaction, the way it plays out
in real time is to gripe or accuse, or do more obscuring to obscure
the fact that we obscured)

So how do you, as a body, unobscure
what is obviously being actively obscured from you
(the truth about hair; is there any out there?
my tongue's in my throat
is it really that moat?
This demon-seed thing
was it really a fling?
Your splintering eye
or call you out in a crowd?
It's really too loud, so
etcetc.

Oh ya! and this...Moslem thing, really;
nothing rhymes with Muslim.

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Old 05-01-2012, 09:42 PM
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Re: Truth Obscured

Uh?
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:34 AM
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Uh?
An equally polite accusal; we have a chance.
What hides the truth in plain sight?
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:43 PM
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Re: Truth Obscured

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Not only do we seek truth, but truth is actively obscured to us.

(I think the natural human reaction, the way it plays out
in real time is to gripe or accuse, or do more obscuring to obscure
the fact that we obscured)

So how do you, as a body, unobscure
what is obviously being actively obscured from you
(the truth about hair; is there any out there?
my tongue's in my throat
is it really that moat?
This demon-seed thing
was it really a fling?
Your splintering eye
or call you out in a crowd?
It's really too loud, so
etcetc.

Oh ya! and this...Moslem thing, really;
nothing rhymes with Muslim.

Strangely...I think I understand what you are trying to say.
To answer you though, would take too much time and no one cares anyway.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:30 AM
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Re: Truth Obscured

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Strangely...I think I understand what you are trying to say.
To answer you though, would take too much time and no one cares anyway.
HA! You would provide my proof, then?
So do I first need to prove that strangely
is the only way to understand?

I had thought "Let us pause in our seeking
to illuminate that which obscures our seeking"
might be more readily accepted.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:07 PM
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Strangely...I think I understand what you are trying to say.
To answer you though, would take too much time and no one cares anyway.
ah, you provided a great verification! Of exactly what I am not sure, but we are going to see you are exactly right (from your pov) and that I effectively have relatively no idea of what I'm talking about anyway (from your pov), and what you missed so far is only that you, and I, are missing almost everything that applies to our physical world; we've just covered the micro-verse, up there, but Bell's theorem extends to our world, very directly, in a way we will cover next.

We hope to lose our pov, at least a little, sans Tao, as Christians are so panty-bunched there.
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Old 05-02-2012, 09:39 AM
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Re: Truth Obscured

Facing truth and doing something about it, is much harder than ignoring truth and going on with your life as usual. Ignorance is bliss, as they say....
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Facing truth and doing something about it, is much harder than ignoring truth and going on with your life as usual. Ignorance is bliss, as they say....
Ah, but I am suggesting that we momentarily leave off facing truth,
that is obscured to us as a body, anyway,
and face the obscuring.

More obscuring! Or wait, maybe that's griping...but ok,
"Facing obscuring and doing something about it
is much easier than ignoring obscuring while trying to face truth"
might be our 1st postulate.

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Obscured to you, maybe.
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Obscured to you, maybe.
An excellent accusation. Our 1st postulate. Agreed.
"We proceed from 'I am not obscured, but if you
disagree with me, you are obscured.'"
(I discount "no one cares" as the first because, imo,
humans are not qualified to use words like
"no one, everyone, always, never...")

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