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Old 02-04-2012, 12:42 PM
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Casual God/convenient Salvation

I went to prayer-night last night at my church and received more than I had anticipated...of which I am sure, I have not yet fully understood. My Pastor, urged us to pray into our loved ones lives, the Blood of Jesus. He said that he would also preach this Sunday on Jesus' Blood. I am very much ready to hear more.
But my point here.....was that I realized I really do not have any true understanding of the Blood of Jesus. Yes, I have somewhat of an intelectual understanding....but not really an 'experience' of this. I go to my church, enjoy the fellowship, worship together, shake hands, good sermons, great food and even some occassional pies......all the 'fun-stuff'. But, years past, when I have heard anyone speaking too much of Jesus' Blood....I have thought, "That is way to serious/heavy for me". I have tended to think of those people as fanatics. I go about my social day where I live, and the people I know would not care to hear about Jesus' Blood...it would be pretty offensive, even for some of the best of the 'good-people' that I know. It would certainly not be convenient.
Ok....so I am presenting this here...because I truely do want to learn. I would appreciate some feed-back, and prayers. I am also praying about this. I think I spend a lot of time pursuing a 'casual-god', a god that is convenient and fits into my idea of fun.....and I wonder why most often I cannot find God.
I am thankful, that at least I am at a beginning place....to see this lack in my life. I am thankful to see that I need to change. I right now pray The Blood of Jesus in my life, and for deep understanding and reverence of who my Saviour is. Thank You Lord.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:48 PM
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Re: Casual God/convenient Salvation

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I went to prayer-night last night at my church and received more than I had anticipated...of which I am sure, I have not yet fully understood. My Pastor, urged us to pray into our loved ones lives, the Blood of Jesus. He said that he would also preach this Sunday on Jesus' Blood. I am very much ready to hear more.

But my point here.....was that I realized I really do not have any true understanding of the Blood of Jesus. Yes, I have somewhat of an intelectual understanding....but not really an 'experience' of this. I go to my church, enjoy the fellowship, worship together, shake hands, good sermons, great food and even some occassional pies......all the 'fun-stuff'. But, years past, when I have heard anyone speaking too much of Jesus' Blood....I have thought, "That is way to serious/heavy for me".

I have tended to think of those people as fanatics. I go about my social day where I live, and the people I know would not care to hear about Jesus' Blood...it would be pretty offensive, even for some of the best of the 'good-people' that I know. It would certainly not be convenient.

Ok....so I am presenting this here...because I truely do want to learn. I would appreciate some feed-back, and prayers. I am also praying about this. I think I spend a lot of time pursuing a 'casual-god', a god that is convenient and fits into my idea of fun.....and I wonder why most often I cannot find God.

I am thankful, that at least I am at a beginning place....to see this lack in my life. I am thankful to see that I need to change. I right now pray The Blood of Jesus in my life, and for deep understanding and reverence of who my Saviour is. Thank You Lord.
Forgivenson, it's a little easier to read your post if you'll break it up.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:31 PM
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Forgivenson, it's a little easier to read your post if you'll break it up.
Thanks NFS. I actually tried to repost it with 'indents'....but it seems that it rearages without the indents when it is posted. I will try to do better.
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Old 02-05-2012, 03:37 PM
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This morning during the sermon...it dawned on me that even before I began to see....concerning Jesus and His Blood that is shed for me, I was already 'covered' .....by His blood, before I saw the importance of this.

This is somewhat humling...and I know that I have not yet seen the depth of this.
'He' loved me 'before' I saw. 'Words' are not enough to express what I am so far able to see....and I know I am only at the beginning.
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Old 02-04-2012, 01:19 PM
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Re: Casual God/convenient Salvation

from the time of Adam and Eve until the Cross, there was a stream of animal blood that was shed to cover the sins of humanity, until the sinless blood of the lamb of God could be shed to purchase our redemption.

For without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins for anyone.

Hebrews 9

1Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.

2For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.

3And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;

4Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

5And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.

6Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.

7But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:

8The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:

9Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;

10Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.

11But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

12Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

13For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

15And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

18Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

19For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

20Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

21Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

22And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

23It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

24For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

27And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.


Isaiah 53

1Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
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Now we are buried with him by baptism into his death, and his precious blood redeems us.
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