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Old 01-18-2012, 08:12 AM
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Poke a fork in me... I think I am done!... With the UPCI that is.

We were originally part of a very large UPCI church but left to try to find something less negative and more normal. We then spent two years in a smaller UPCI church and while I found the change of pastor somewhat of a change I still really can not seem to make the UPCI and their doctrine work in my life. So as of about two months ago we started getting out by cutting back services and relinquishing commitments.

Let me be plain to say that we are not ready to give up on God and feel we need a church home. Towards that I have spent the past two months reading doctrinal statements by the scores. I know more about religion than I really ever wanted to but still have no idea where to go...So I made a list, in no particular order, are some things I know about me... anyone want to hazard a guess at where I might fit in?

1. I do not buy the trinity but am not convinced that oneness (taught the UPCI way) is technically correct either. Best I can explain the Godhead is to say that it's not either one of those views, may be too hard for humans to understand or explain or if there is a good explanation I haven't heard it.

2. I believe in the infilling of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe that the HS will make one act like a maniac and really want to avoid the whooping wild worship associated with Pentecost but still desire liberty in worship.

3. I prefer expository teaching.

4. I prefer a place where simplicity, modesty, etc. are taught and practiced but not turned into a set of rules.

5. I would like some kind of interactivity in church. A time either in classes or after teaching/preaching where questions are welcome. I do not appreciate some one giving me my opinion if they want it especially when delivered as screaming from behind the pulpit.

6. I want balance with my life apart from church. I can't come to 5 or 6 services/events/programs a week at church. I am happy if they are offered for those who want them but I do not want to be seen as less spiritual for not being at everything.

7. I would like to avoid money hungry church. Big building and expansion plans and their subsequent demands on the people to finance their personal dreams, dirty rich and getting richer ministry, places where tithes are taught in a threatening way. I am a generous, cheerful and faithful giver but really want to tear up my check after being told that if it is not enough I will instantly drop dead if lucky... if not I will get cancer like some other poor sucker... uhmm, I mean sister, did.

8. I'm not big on hearing about hell all the time or how everyone I know will wind up there and it will be all my fault if I don't manage to drag them to the next revival. I would prefer to skip the hell business all together but will tolerate it occasionally. I do my level best to reach the lost but am comfortable to leave others on their own spiritual journey without having to convince them that my way is the only way.

9. I prefer Sabbath keeping if possible but am willing to worship on Sunday. I don't want to hear that Sabbath keepers are stupid or that people that worship on Sunday are going to hell (see above).

10. I don't really care for a lot of holiday hoopla. Trunk or Treat for Halloween, Christmas banquets, Valentines and Mother's day fund raisers, Easter picnics but if they go on it's no big deal to me as long as I am not required to participate for conscience sake.

Any guesses even?



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Old 01-18-2012, 08:22 AM
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:36 AM
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:27 AM
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Poke a fork in me... I think I am done!... With the UPCI that is.

We were originally part of a very large UPCI church but left to try to find something less negative and more normal. We then spent two years in a smaller UPCI church and while I found the change of pastor somewhat of a change I still really can not seem to make the UPCI and their doctrine work in my life. So as of about two months ago we started getting out by cutting back services and relinquishing commitments.

Let me be plain to say that we are not ready to give up on God and feel we need a church home. Towards that I have spent the past two months reading doctrinal statements by the scores. I know more about religion than I really ever wanted to but still have no idea where to go...So I made a list, in no particular order, are some things I know about me... anyone want to hazard a guess at where I might fit in?

1. I do not buy the trinity but am not convinced that oneness (taught the UPCI way) is technically correct either. Best I can explain the Godhead is to say that it's not either one of those views, may be too hard for humans to understand or explain or if there is a good explanation I haven't heard it.

2. I believe in the infilling of the Holy Spirit. I do not believe that the HS will make one act like a maniac and really want to avoid the whooping wild worship associated with Pentecost but still desire liberty in worship.

3. I prefer expository teaching.

4. I prefer a place where simplicity, modesty, etc. are taught and practiced but not turned into a set of rules.

5. I would like some kind of interactivity in church. A time either in classes or after teaching/preaching where questions are welcome. I do not appreciate some one giving me my opinion if they want it especially when delivered as screaming from behind the pulpit.

6. I want balance with my life apart from church. I can't come to 5 or 6 services/events/programs a week at church. I am happy if they are offered for those who want them but I do not want to be seen as less spiritual for not being at everything.

7. I would like to avoid money hungry church. Big building and expansion plans and their subsequent demands on the people to finance their personal dreams, dirty rich and getting richer ministry, places where tithes are taught in a threatening way. I am a generous, cheerful and faithful giver but really want to tear up my check after being told that if it is not enough I will instantly drop dead if lucky... if not I will get cancer like some other poor sucker... uhmm, I mean sister, did.

8. I'm not big on hearing about hell all the time or how everyone I know will wind up there and it will be all my fault if I don't manage to drag them to the next revival. I would prefer to skip the hell business all together but will tolerate it occasionally. I do my level best to reach the lost but am comfortable to leave others on their own spiritual journey without having to convince them that my way is the only way.

9. I prefer Sabbath keeping if possible but am willing to worship on Sunday. I don't want to hear that Sabbath keepers are stupid or that people that worship on Sunday are going to hell (see above).

10. I don't really care for a lot of holiday hoopla. Trunk or Treat for Halloween, Christmas banquets, Valentines and Mother's day fund raisers, Easter picnics but if they go on it's no big deal to me as long as I am not required to participate for conscience sake.

Any guesses even?



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Can't help you, unless you want to come to the Dallas area, to far?
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:36 AM
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Can't help you, unless you want to come to the Dallas area, to far?
What's in Dallas?
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:17 AM
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What's in Dallas?
Lake Highlands Church is a great church. Website is in my signature. A former Church of Christ (25 years ago) leans orderly Pentecostal in worship.

Pastor has personally mentored over seven gay men for over twenty years, written a book about it. Several are married with children and still attend LHC, some are committed to a celibate life.

He is in London and Ireland this next two weeks by invitation of several churches that want to hear his teaching on ministry to gays, and how the church should be a safe place, but still teach right living.

The media in London is demonizing him as "the homophobic from Texas", threating to protest the meetings. They are really nuts!! Homosexuality is not separated out as a "special" sin, that is unforgivable, at LHC. His mentoring is his calling at a personal level, not the focus of his public ministry.

Doctrine is mostly evangelical, but no heavy trinity focus, not stated in "what we believe". Teaching is scholarly and spiritual, pastor has about six graduate degrees, but is not heady with human education, down to earth and very Jesus centric. He was an attorney prior to full time pastoring.

Life groups are deep fellowship and community, Jesus is the focus of life at LHC. Pastor has been at LHC for almost thirty years.
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Lake Highlands Church is a great church. Website is in my signature. A former Church of Christ (25 years ago) leans orderly Pentecostal in worship.

Pastor has personally mentored over seven gay men for over twenty years, written a book about it. Several are married with children and still attend LHC, some are committed to a celibate life.

He is in London and Ireland this next two weeks by invitation of several churches that want to hear his teaching on ministry to gays, and how the church should be a safe place, but still teach right living.

The media in London is demonizing him as "the homophobic from Texas", threating to protest the meetings. They are really nuts!! Homosexuality is not separated out as a "special" sin, that is unforgivable, at LHC. His mentoring is his calling at a personal level, not the focus of his public ministry.

Doctrine is mostly evangelical, but no heavy trinity focus, not stated in "what we believe". Teaching is scholarly and spiritual, pastor has about six graduate degrees, but is not heady with human education, down to earth and very Jesus centric. He was an attorney prior to full time pastoring.

Life groups are deep fellowship and community, Jesus is the focus of life at LHC. Pastor has been at LHC for almost thirty years.
Have a sister church anywhere near Houston? Or just one that you think shares those values?
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Have a sister church anywhere near Houston? Or just one that you think shares those values?
Yeah, I'd also like to know.... LOL
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Have a sister church anywhere near Houston? Or just one that you think shares those values?
I do not go to this church, but have visited and REALLY enjoyed the spirit there. http://www.connextionschurch.org/

I have several friends that go there and they LOVE the pastor. It is in Cypress Texas off of Kluge Road. I post the site so that you can google it.

Also, Grace Church. Two Locations. http://www.gcofh.org/

LOVE this church also. Visit when I can with my sister. She lives in Beaumont and I live in Katy. We meet halfway at Grace. 1 service on Saturday night. 4 Services on Sunday, all at the Humble Location.

Grace Church Garden Oaks has a Sunday morning Service at 10 AM. On once a month Saturday "429" Service. It is quite AWESOME!

If you want to revisit a UPC church, I go to the Pentecostals of Katy. I am not in any ministry at the moment, but someday.....

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