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Old 12-13-2011, 09:41 PM
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The Keystone Pipeline

So a pipeline project from Canada to Louisiana that would provide 20,000 shovel-ready jobs for Americans, and President Obama won't make a decision until after the election. He says we have to do something now about jobs but he won't approve this project because his rabid environmentalist supporters are hoilding him hostage. In other words, getting reelected is more important than jobs for Americans, lower energy prices and greater independence from Middle Eatern and Venezuelan oil. Even the unions are for it! And that's his conundrum. He has two constituencies at odds over this, so President Obama does what he's been doing since his state legislature days: vote present. Canada is saying if we won't take their oil, they'll send it to China. Folks, there is no doubt that Mr. Obama seems very nice, congenial, has a good marriage and two beautiful daughters. I believe he's sincere and really cares about Americans. But he and his advisors don't understand economics, job creation, consumer confidence, housing, Wall Street, Main Street, small business, currency policy, trade policy, foreign policy. They don't understand leadership. Leaders make decisions. Leaders lead. Leaders do the right thing even when a voting bloc complains. Who are those environmentalists going to vote for anyway? The GOP candidate? They'd still vote for him regardless of the pipeline. He just doesn't have the leadership quality that presidents need to have. I'm extremely disappointed in this president to say the least. Not that I expected him to win me over. His rhetoric in 2008 told me enough that he would take a bad economy and make it worse. I tried to warn people. People wouldn't listen.

Obama's campaign slogan might be "It would've been worse". The GOP slogan uoght to be, "It should've improved".
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Old 12-13-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: The Keystone Pipeline

.........I guess I don't believe he "cares about America". He has been apologizing for America to every nation on the planet since his election.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:00 AM
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.........I guess I don't believe he "cares about America". He has been apologizing for America to every nation on the planet since his election.
I think he wants to turn this country into a second rate socialist state like Greece.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:31 AM
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So a pipeline project from Canada to Louisiana that would provide 20,000 shovel-ready jobs for Americans, and President Obama won't make a decision until after the election. He says we have to do something now about jobs but he won't approve this project because his rabid environmentalist supporters are hoilding him hostage. In other words, getting reelected is more important than jobs for Americans, lower energy prices and greater independence from Middle Eatern and Venezuelan oil. Even the unions are for it! And that's his conundrum. He has two constituencies at odds over this, so President Obama does what he's been doing since his state legislature days: vote present. Canada is saying if we won't take their oil, they'll send it to China. Folks, there is no doubt that Mr. Obama seems very nice, congenial, has a good marriage and two beautiful daughters. I believe he's sincere and really cares about Americans. But he and his advisors don't understand economics, job creation, consumer confidence, housing, Wall Street, Main Street, small business, currency policy, trade policy, foreign policy. They don't understand leadership. Leaders make decisions. Leaders lead. Leaders do the right thing even when a voting bloc complains. Who are those environmentalists going to vote for anyway? The GOP candidate? They'd still vote for him regardless of the pipeline. He just doesn't have the leadership quality that presidents need to have. I'm extremely disappointed in this president to say the least. Not that I expected him to win me over. His rhetoric in 2008 told me enough that he would take a bad economy and make it worse. I tried to warn people. People wouldn't listen.

Obama's campaign slogan might be "It would've been worse". The GOP slogan uoght to be, "It should've improved".
A number of those jobs will be union jobs. Could a Republican candidate who commits to the pipeline pick up the labor vote?
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Old 12-14-2011, 10:48 AM
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A number of those jobs will be union jobs. Could a Republican candidate who commits to the pipeline pick up the labor vote?
Certainly. Not all union members vote the way union leadership expects. In fact unions are losing membership all the time. There used to be about 20% of American labor unionized. It's about 10% today. They are losing their clout more and more. However, the union bosses control the union coffers and they still contribute large sums to Democrats. This is the hesitancy on BOs part. He doesn't wanter alienate either constituency because elf the $ factor, more so than the votes IMO.
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:33 PM
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Certainly. Not all union members vote the way union leadership expects. In fact unions are losing membership all the time. There used to be about 20% of American labor unionized. It's about 10% today. They are losing their clout more and more. However, the union bosses control the union coffers and they still contribute large sums to Democrats. This is the hesitancy on BOs part. He doesn't wanter alienate either constituency because elf the $ factor, more so than the votes IMO.
I worked as a union ironworker with many republicans ,they just didnt advertise it,they voted it.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:44 AM
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I worked as a union ironworker with many republicans ,they just didnt advertise it,they voted it.
We have good news for you brother.

Buffett has trains. Trinity Industries ( I am not kidding) makes tankers.

Obama has a fetish for trains. Like stuffing people in cattle cars. Oh that was soo german.

I digress,

http://webfarm.bloomberg.com/news/20...-pipeline.html

Trinity also makes non tilting windmill towers.

Can you just feel the GREEN virtue in your veins?

Welders for crude tankers.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:32 AM
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I think he wants to turn this country into a second rate socialist state like Greece.
After seeing four years of him... I have to agree.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:57 PM
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Does anybody like Obama? lol
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Old 12-15-2011, 01:08 PM
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Does anybody like Obama? lol
Oh yeah. He still has his fans and those who defend him no matter what he says or does.
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