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11-23-2011, 07:59 PM
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Effective methods for changing a church within?
Do any methods exist that can be used to change a churches doctrines? or its leaders? or any other aspects that a person might want changed? If so what are those methods? Or what methods might work?
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11-23-2011, 08:48 PM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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11-23-2011, 09:25 PM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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What about purposefully doing something that is against the rules of the church in order to hopefully challenge whichever rule is wrong? For example a girl who is a member of a church which preaches against jewelry might wear jewelry to that church? Could that ever work in getting the no jewelry teaching changed?
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11-24-2011, 12:56 AM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
Anything that subverts the pastor directly or indirectly is rebellion and sin. This is true no matter what he preaches. The best way to handle it is to either talk directly to the pastor or leave.
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11-24-2011, 04:10 AM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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Anything that subverts the pastor directly or indirectly is rebellion and sin. This is true no matter what he preaches. The best way to handle it is to either talk directly to the pastor or leave.
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This kind of thought is why people drink the kool aid.
The Pastor is not infallible like the Pope, er wait . . .
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12-09-2011, 07:12 PM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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This kind of thought is why people drink the kool aid.
The Pastor is not infallible like the Pope, er wait . . .
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11-24-2011, 09:19 AM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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Anything that subverts the pastor directly or indirectly is rebellion and sin. This is true no matter what he preaches. The best way to handle it is to either talk directly to the pastor or leave.
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I suppose you also thought Martin Luther King Jr was in rebellion when he led his peaceful protests?
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11-24-2011, 09:57 AM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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Anything that subverts the pastor directly or indirectly is rebellion and sin. This is true no matter what he preaches. The best way to handle it is to either talk directly to the pastor or leave.
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I wholeheartedly disagree my fellow UPCer! If not for yourself then surely you owe the body and specifically the weaker brethren more than this. A pastor is fallible just like other human flesh. He simply does not have blanket authority to preach, much less enforce his whim of choice. He is bound by the authority and limitations of scripture.
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12-09-2011, 06:22 PM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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I wholeheartedly disagree my fellow UPCer! If not for yourself then surely you owe the body and specifically the weaker brethren more than this. A pastor is fallible just like other human flesh. He simply does not have blanket authority to preach, much less enforce his whim of choice. He is bound by the authority and limitations of scripture.
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Bro Jay is not UPC
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12-09-2011, 06:25 PM
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Re: Effective methods for changing a church within
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Bro Jay is not UPC
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Thank you. When I saw that post, I thought I might have to explain that myself. Thanks for the catch. 
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