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11-16-2011, 08:36 PM
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Is Welfare a Right?
What say you? Do we have a right and expectation to receive a government check for food and housing?
After all this IS America. 
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11-16-2011, 08:37 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
Under the law, yes
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11-16-2011, 09:18 PM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
No, we do not have that right, nor should we have that privilege. We should not be dependent on the government to supply our every need. All the nations that have done this see declining productivity and contentment, and a sharp rise in sloth, rebellion, strife, discontent, and many other sinful attitudes and behaviors.
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11-17-2011, 08:15 AM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
How do you figure Prax? Do you consider the "comon welfare" in the Constitution to refer to some Government obligation to put food on the individual's table? Otherwise, how do you consider their to be some "right" to a handout from the Gov?
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11-17-2011, 08:54 AM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
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Originally Posted by Nitehawk013
How do you figure Prax? Do you consider the "comon welfare" in the Constitution to refer to some Government obligation to put food on the individual's table? Otherwise, how do you consider their to be some "right" to a handout from the Gov?
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We have a right to "pursue" happiness. It doesn't say a right to a chicken in every pot.
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11-17-2011, 09:05 AM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
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Originally Posted by coadie
We have a right to "pursue" happiness. It doesn't say a right to a chicken in every pot.
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11-17-2011, 09:06 AM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
No, but it's nice to know help may be available if we need it. But it shouldn't be a career.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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11-17-2011, 10:04 AM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
It's not a right by any means... but in a civil Christian society that can provide welfare, it is a blessing for many.
Or one could see it as a right. Even the Law gave the poor the right to glean.
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11-17-2011, 11:59 AM
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
It's not a right by any means... but in a civil Christian society that can provide welfare, it is a blessing for many.
Or one could see it as a right. Even the Law gave the poor the right to glean.
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Gleaning is work.
Too much like picking up aluminum cans.
We are not in a Christian civil society. OWS reports support my observation.
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11-17-2011, 10:12 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Is Welfare a Right?
It's not a right nor should it be an expectation. And... if a civil christian society wants to provide assistance for people then let it provide it as they are able and desire to do so. But leave the government out of it.
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