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Old 05-16-2007, 03:37 PM
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Forced abortions now legal in America

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Forced Abortion Legal in America
Woman awakes in a closet after coerced abortion
FRONT ROYAL, Virginia, March 9, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com/pop.org) - The Population Research Institute has revealed that coerced abortion is a reality in America. A court ruled that a woman can be forced to submit to an abortion, if, in the opinion of the abortionist, the measure is necessary to "protect the health of the mother." The Jane Roe II vs. Aware Women Center for Choice, Inc. ruling was handed down in January.

The case arose when a young woman who entered an abortion clinic for an abortion changed her mind. The abortionist, William P. Egherman, who has committed over 10,000 abortions, instead of stopping the procedure, called in assistants to hold her down while he continued to dilate her cervix.

"My God, you're hurting me" the woman screamed. "You're killing me, I'll never be able to have babies... Stop!" Despite her pleas, Egherman went in with a forceps, an instrument in court he referred to as "the bear" and began prodding and pulling, and accidentally tore out a piece of her intestines. He advised the ambulance to go slow, without lights or siren, so as not to distress his other clients who were waiting for abortions. The hospital repaired the damage and removed the remains of a dead child.

The woman and her lawyer, former judge, Chris Sapp filed suit in the federal courts, arguing that the abortionist had violated the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE). FACE was passed to guarantee the right of women to receive reproductive health care. But if a woman had a right to enter a clinic to get an abortion, Sapp argued, she also has a right to leave a clinic in order to protect herself and her baby. The suit was lost, but an appeal is planned -- to the US Supreme Court if necessary.

According to Sapp, "This ruling does establish a precedent for forced abortion." An expectant mother receiving a routine gynecological exam, for example, could be held down and forcibly aborted. The abortionist would merely have to argue that the abortion was necessary to protect the mother's health or life, and this would not be a violation of the FACE Act.

PRI recently learned of another forced abortion in America. A 25-year-old Maryland woman, four months pregnant, changed her mind about having an abortion after being taken to the procedure room. She ran back to the clinic entrance where her boyfriend stopped her. "You have to get an abortion", he told her. "I've already paid for it". Three clinic workers and the abortionists surrounded the woman, sedated her by injection, and then took her back into the procedure room. After the forced abortion, she awoke in a closet.

Read the PRI report at: http://pop.org/main.cfm?id=215&r1=2....level=3&eid=54
Oregon coverage:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/orego...8369629820.xml
Massachusetts and Maine coverage:
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New Jersey coverage:
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New York coverage:
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wi...,4806216.story



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Old 05-16-2007, 03:40 PM
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If this is true it's terrible! And people wonder why people blow abortion clinics up.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:41 PM
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If this is true it's terrible! And people wonder why people blow abortion clinics up.
I'm with ya on that, Rico!!!
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:43 PM
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Where is the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the unborn and for the women who changed their mind in this case???
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:06 PM
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If this is true it's terrible! And people wonder why people blow abortion clinics up.
Did any legitimate sources confirm this? As for blowing up abortion clinics, didn't your parents ever tell you that two wrongs don't make a right?

If these things really did happen, I hope the doctors, staff and anyone else involved in forcing these women to undergo abortions are imprisoned for a very long time and are prohibited from ever working in the medical field again. I also hope that these women receive a very large monetary award from the Court - paid for by the abortionists and their supporters.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:02 PM
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Did any legitimate sources confirm this? As for blowing up abortion clinics, didn't your parents ever tell you that two wrongs don't make a right?

If these things really did happen, I hope the doctors, staff and anyone else involved in forcing these women to undergo abortions are imprisoned for a very long time and are prohibited from ever working in the medical field again. I also hope that these women receive a very large monetary award from the Court - paid for by the abortionists and their supporters.
I also have a difficult time believing this is legit. It would be all over the news!
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:08 PM
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I also have a difficult time believing this is legit. It would be all over the news!
I'm not so sure. The same way every medical procedure known to man, including sex-change operations, are filmed and broadcast on health channels...EXCEPT for abortions. Funny how the media doesn't like to address what happens in clinics.

However, I would like to see confirmation that this is a true story....none of the source links at the bottom of the page are existing or working links.

But, hey...if a doc can cut off the wrong leg of a patient, it isn't a big leap to think they play God and continue in a procedure they don't have the right to perform, per patient wishes.
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Old 05-17-2007, 03:25 PM
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I'm not so sure. The same way every medical procedure known to man, including sex-change operations, are filmed and broadcast on health channels...EXCEPT for abortions. Funny how the media doesn't like to address what happens in clinics.

However, I would like to see confirmation that this is a true story....none of the source links at the bottom of the page are existing or working links.

But, hey...if a doc can cut off the wrong leg of a patient, it isn't a big leap to think they play God and continue in a procedure they don't have the right to perform, per patient wishes.
So yes these things can happen~~ This is very much like the of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, that are responsible for most cases of cervical cancer. Texas the first state to require the shots for girls as young as 11 or 12, WA state is also looking to enforce.

I believe the state should have no right to enforce vaccines upon our young women without their knowledge or understanding of what's being put into their body. This should be left up to the child and parents, only when the child can understand what it's for, after all it is their body and they should be given the right to decide, not big government and drug companies.

I have no issues with the drug, it's great they have found something, all in all, nor do I feel like it cause a kid to become sexually active, the fact are they don't know the long term effects of this new vaccine, seems to me they are using the young for guinea pigs.

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Texas Requires Cancer Vaccine for Girls

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AUSTIN (AP) -- Gov. Rick Perry ordered Friday that schoolgirls in Texas must be vaccinated against the sexually transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer, making Texas the first state to require the shots.

The girls will have to get Merck & Co.'s new vaccine against strains of the human papillomavirus, or HPV, that are responsible for most cases of cervical cancer.

Merck is bankrolling efforts to pass laws in state legislatures across the country mandating it Gardasil vaccine for girls as young as 11 or 12. It doubled its lobbying budget in Texas and has funneled money through Women in Government, an advocacy group made up of female state legislators around the country.

Details of the order were not immediately available, but the governor's office confirmed to The Associated Press that he was signing the order and he would comment Friday afternoon.

Perry has several ties to Merck and Women in Government. One of the drug company's three lobbyists in Texas is Mike Toomey, his former chief of staff. His current chief of staff's mother-in-law, Texas Republican state Rep. Dianne White Delisi, is a state director for Women in Government.

Toomey was expected to be able to woo conservative legislators concerned about the requirement stepping on parent's rights and about signaling tacit approval of sexual activity to young girls. Delisi, as head of the House public health committee, which likely would have considered legislation filed by a Democratic member, also would have helped ease conservative opposition.

Perry also received $6,000 from Merck's political action committee during his re-election campaign.

It wasn't immediately clear how long the order would last and whether the legislation was still necessary. However it could have been difficult to muster support from lawmakers who champion abstinence education and parents' rights.

Perry, a conservative Christian who opposes abortion rights and stem- cell research using embryonic cells, counts on the religious right for his political base.

But he has said the cervical cancer vaccine is no different than the one that protects children against polio.

"If there are diseases in our society that are going to cost us large amounts of money, it just makes good economic sense, not to mention the health and well being of these individuals to have those vaccines available," he said.

Texas allows parents to opt out of inoculations by filing an affidavit stating that he or she objected to the vaccine for religious or philosophical reasons.

Even with such provisions, however, conservative groups say mandates take away parents' rights to be the primary medical decision maker for their children.

The federal government approved Gardasil in June, and a government advisory panel has recommended that all girls get the shots at 11 and 12, before they are likely to be sexually active.

The New Jersey-based drug company could generate billions in sales if Gardasil _ at $360 for the three-shot regimen _ were made mandatory across the country. Most insurance companies now cover the vaccine, which has been shown to have no serious side effects.

Merck spokeswoman Janet Skidmore would not say how much the company is spending on lobbyists or how much it has donated to Women in Government. Susan Crosby, the group's president, also declined to specify how much the drug company gave.

A top official from Merck's vaccine division sits on Women in Government's business council, and many of the bills around the country have been introduced by members of Women in Government.
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I'm not so sure. The same way every medical procedure known to man, including sex-change operations, are filmed and broadcast on health channels...EXCEPT for abortions. Funny how the media doesn't like to address what happens in clinics.

However, I would like to see confirmation that this is a true story....none of the source links at the bottom of the page are existing or working links.

But, hey...if a doc can cut off the wrong leg of a patient, it isn't a big leap to think they play God and continue in a procedure they don't have the right to perform, per patient wishes.
I find it hard to believe a doctor would start a procedure against the patient's wishes with other people in the room as well. There would be at least two nurses in with the doctor, and the ramifications of a malpractice or other lawsuit would be too great with witnesses around.

Removing the wrong leg is the result of miscommunication, not going against patient wishes. That once happened at a hospital I worked at. A nurse wrote down left instead of right. Nobody double checked.
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Ugh! How ironic that a ruling that supports the rights of the MOTHER over the rights of the CHILD would disregard the MOTHER's wishes on this matter!

It just goes to show that their true agenda has nothing to do with women's "rights."
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