We want america back

[Falla39]

http://youtu.be/2M5Hc8ofIHs

[Michael The Disciple]

IMO America is being transformed into "Mystery Babylon". Yes I long for the old days myself but America as the nation we knew is already gone.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

IMO America is being transformed into "Mystery Babylon". Yes I long for the old days myself but America as the nation we knew is already gone.

2 Chron. 7:14
"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

[MarcBee]

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

I've always wondered about this scripture and how it should be or could be properly interpreted. Does it apply to any country, or only to (a sort of) theocracy such as Israel once was trying to be? Or is it rather speaking to any backslidden people of God? "My people.....turn from THEIR wicked ways." Or are the faithful people of God sort of "standing in" for any political nation in which they find themselves?

Hope this not a hijack, I've just always wondered, since it's such a quoted scripture, and seems just convenient "for all that ails ya."

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by MarcBee

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

I've always wondered about this scripture and how it should be or could be properly interpreted. Does it apply to any country, or only to (a sort of) theocracy such as Israel once was trying to be? Or is it rather speaking to any backslidden people of God? "My people.....turn from THEIR wicked ways." Or are the faithful people of God sort of "standing in" for any political nation in which they find themselves?

Hope this not a hijack, I've just always wondered, since it's such a quoted scripture, and seems just convenient "for all that ails ya."

in context it was addressed to the nation of Israel or Judah of the Old testament, however the principle can apply to us as well today.

If this nationed humbled itself and brought up godliness and turned from there wicked ways, just how much do you think the Lord would bless us.

The bible tells us it rains on the just and the unjust, However how much more could it rain when those unjustly people become justified..

[Dedicated Mind]

when exactly did the church have america?

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

when exactly did the church have america?

It never did. But it had far more influence on everyday life. Back then almost no buisnesses were even open on Sunday.

[MarcBee]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It never did....

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

when exactly did the church have america?

America was founded on Christian principals etc. They acknowledged God in
the setting up of the Constitution. She was founded on biblical principals, etc.
Today, because many American people have turned their backs on godliness
and righteousness and did nothing, prayer has been taken out of the public
schools, and other rights continue to be taken away.

The churches are made up of American citizens and others have joined them.

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Falla39

America was founded on Christian principals etc. They acknowledged God in
the setting up of the Constitution. She was founded on biblical principals, etc.
Today, because many American people have turned their backs on godliness
and righteousness and did nothing, prayer has been taken out of the public
schools, and other rights continue to be taken away.

The churches are made up of American citizens and others have joined them.

what exactly were those godly principles? slavery? denying women and minorities the right to work, vote and own property? was america godly when it fought the vietnam war, wwI, wwII, the korean war, the gulf war? was america godly when it massacred indians or during the jim crow south that lasted til the 1960's? I believe many constitutions mention god. If there is no prayer in school, it is because it is unconstitutional. the very document that is "godly". imagine being a christian in an islamic state, would you want muslims taking their country back? secularism is good for every state, that is what the founders intended. keeping religion out of poltics.