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Old 05-12-2007, 02:57 PM
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Different God?

Is the God of Trinitarians a different One from the Oneness adherants?

Please. I really don't want to turn this into a debate on the two positions. We realize that there are very distinct differences and either one or both positions are incorrect.

We both would say we recongnize that there is an aspect of incomprehensibility and mystery about God. While He is immanant He is also transcendant. Our knowledge, at best, is incomplete and finite....and will always be.

If one has adopted the 'wrong' view of God isn't it still the same God? Mistaken? You bet. Is this a sin of making God into an idol? Some on both sides of the issue would say so. I tend to lean that way. From what I've read David Benard would disagree. He'd say that we both worship the same God though one has a mistaken conception of Him.

What say ye and more importantly, why?
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:02 PM
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The misconception of the godhead leads to the misconception of what it means to be born again. If someone is baptized in Jesus' name and is filled with the holy ghost then I don't think God holds their misconception against them. I know that in the Oneness group the "common" people don't understand "oneness." Maybe it's because they don't study. *shrugs*
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:13 PM
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The misconception of the godhead leads to the misconception of what it means to be born again. If someone is baptized in Jesus' name and is filled with the holy ghost then I don't think God holds their misconception against them. I know that in the Oneness group the "common" people don't understand "oneness." Maybe it's because they don't study. *shrugs*
If you asked most saints from Oneness churches why they believe in Oneness, most of them would say it's because it's what their pastor preaches. The same goes with folks from Trinitarian churches.

If one has to have a clear understanding of the godhead to be saved, we're all in trouble! Most of us believe that the God of the Holy Bible has saved us. I think that's good enough!
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If you asked most saints from Oneness churches why they believe in Oneness, most of them would say it's because it's what their pastor preaches. The same goes with folks from Trinitarian churches.

If one has to have a clear understanding of the godhead to be saved, we're all in trouble! Most of us believe that the God of the Holy Bible has saved us. I think that's good enough!
It's pretty simple when you believe "saved at repentance."
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It's pretty simple when you believe "saved at repentance."
I do think we can make it more complicated than it needs to be!
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:29 PM
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I do think we can make it more complicated than it needs to be!
I don't disagree..
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Old 05-12-2007, 06:06 PM
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I do think we can make it more complicated than it needs to be!
My sanctified momma said almost the same thing a few days ago...
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If you asked most saints from Oneness churches why they believe in Oneness, most of them would say it's because it's what their pastor preaches. The same goes with folks from Trinitarian churches.

If one has to have a clear understanding of the godhead to be saved, we're all in trouble! Most of us believe that the God of the Holy Bible has saved us. I think that's good enough!
Well let's ask. I will start. I believe in the Oneness because I believe it is the best explanation of what the bible teaches. In fact what I believe is not exactly what my first or current pastor taught. My knowledge and views of the Godhead were mostly influenced by personal study, dialoging with Trinitarians, reading the works of other Apostolics like Jason Dulle and David Bernard
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Well let's ask. I will start. I believe in the Oneness because I believe it is the best explanation of what the bible teaches. In fact what I believe is not exactly what my first or current pastor taught. My knowledge and views of the Godhead were mostly influenced by personal study, dialoging with Trinitarians, reading the works of other Apostolics like Jason Dulle and David Bernard
I like Jason's stuff.. not that big a fan of Bernard..
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I like Jason's stuff.. not that big a fan of Bernard..
Me neither...
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