Faith Healing Conviction

Dedicated Mind · #1 06-09-2011, 04:25 AM

couple convicted of not providing medical care to daughter because of faith. conservative wackos is my opinion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_873337.html

Sam · #2 06-09-2011, 09:16 AM

I always have mixed feelings about stuff like this. It is my understanding that the parents were doing what they thought best for their child. In a way their freedom to practice their religion was abridged. I also like the idea that the government can step in when the welfare of a child is concerned. But, this can become a very slippery slope if a child is not being taught the philosophy that is being mandated by the government through the government school system.

I look at it a little differently than some. I think if an adult chooses to refuse medical help, that person has the right to do so, but when a child is concerned, I am glad to see the government step in and over ride the parents rights to raise their child the way they believe.

kingdomapostle · #3 06-09-2011, 09:22 AM

Tough call.

MarcBee · #4 06-09-2011, 09:43 AM

So, they were convicted because of their "convictions", eh? I thought the prayer of faith, (James 5: 14-15) if offered in true faith, was supposed to heal the sick, and forgive any presumed sin causing the ailment.

So, the couple gambled that they had "true faith," but it wasn't true enough to prevent the government from identifying a failure and intervening on humanitarian grounds? Or is God expecting the couple to go jail for their faith, since He chose not to heal the child so far? The child will at least be "healed" in the next life, eh?

OR, if they were REAL apostolics, the results would have been better?

MissBrattified · #5 06-09-2011, 11:16 AM

At the age of 2, my Dad almost let me die of pneumonia before my Grandpa scooped me up and took me to the doctor who then personally carried me across the street to the ER. (I say "my Dad" because it was mostly his decision to not go to the doctor.) Dr. Richard of Sulphur, LA, (pronounced "ree-shard" - the same doctor who later saw my girls when they were little) was VERY angry with my parents--and rightfully so. Parents sometimes do stupid things with good intentions.

Oddly enough, after two days comatose in the hospital, Bro. Carl Ballestero walked into the room, and I opened my eyes and sat up in bed before he even prayed for me. I was really young, but I actually remember Bro. Ballestero appearing in the door of my hospital room. I was sent home from the hospital that same day.

Apparently God had healing in mind, but maybe He was also teaching my parents a lesson?????

I share the anger at parents who let their child[ren] die, but at the same time, I understand how confused people can be when their religion demands something impossible of them.

Sam · #6 06-09-2011, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

At the age of 2, my Dad almost let me die of pneumonia before my Grandpa scooped me up and took me to the doctor who then personally carried me across the street to the ER. (I say "my Dad" because it was mostly his decision to not go to the doctor.) Dr. Richard of Sulphur, LA, (pronounced "ree-shard" - the same doctor who later saw my girls when they were little) was VERY angry with my parents--and rightfully so. Parents sometimes do stupid things with good intentions.

Oddly enough, after two days comatose in the hospital, Bro. Carl Ballestero walked into the room, and I opened my eyes and sat up in bed before he even prayed for me. I was really young, but I actually remember Bro. Ballestero appearing in the door of my hospital room. I was sent home from the hospital that same day. ...

Thank you for that testimony

kingdomapostle · #7 06-09-2011, 11:25 AM

Interesting.

Sister Alvear · #8 06-09-2011, 11:54 AM

I don't think people are stupid for preaching some things many of us old timers remember the day...however sometimes our good intentions are not enough we must use common sense...but when a person is taught day in and day our doctors are wrong and it is a lasck of faith to go to one...there is a struggle in the mind...no one wants to displease God...and if we are taught something long enough it seems the right thing to do even at the cost of death!
We must pray for wisdom and leading from the Holy Spirit and ask God to help us help others that are lead down a dangerous path.
I know JW people that lost their love ones over their blood message...

MissBrattified · #9 06-09-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

I don't think people are stupid for preaching some things many of us old timers remember the day...however sometimes our good intentions are not enough we must use common sense...but when a person is taught day in and day our doctors are wrong and it is a lasck of faith to go to one...there is a struggle in the mind...no one wants to displease God...and if we are taught something long enough it seems the right thing to do even at the cost of death!
We must pray for wisdom and leading from the Holy Spirit and ask God to help us help others that are lead down a dangerous path.
I know JW people that lost their love ones over their blood message...

Exactly. People are faced with what they perceive to be a choice between God and temporal things, even something so precious as the life of a child.

kingdomapostle · #10 06-09-2011, 12:26 PM

Why can't you take your child to the doctor WHILE believing God for the miracle?