NASA Scientist "Irresponsible to Say" G Warming

[deacon blues]

In USA Today cover article on La Nina and its effect on the wildfires, droughts, tornadoes and floods in the USA, NASA scientist Bill Patzert says its irresponsible to say its because of global warming. What is amazing is how many politicians, educators, scientists, celebrities and other influencers continue to perpetuate the myths and unprovable claims of the GW theory. The whole "green movement" is rooted in this stupid legend and it affects our ability to drill for oil domestically, to continue to use our own coal for power, it raises the price of cars that have to continually add costs to remain compliant with government standards. Will this be or not be an issue in 2012? Will a conservative candidate take it on with real facts and truth and expose it for what its worth?

[Twisp]

He didn't say it because he thought it was wrong. You did not post the rest of his quote. He says the exact thing you would expect a scientist to say.

"It would be irresponsible to say that," Patzert says. "Nobody knows."

He merely doesn't like to draw up conclusions without facts first. Makes sense to me.

Furthermore, if you had read up on Patzert before taking his quote out of context, you would have realized that he DOES believe in global warming. Some quotes from him:

"The much-maligned Climategate scientists are solid and their results unequivocally correct. These are the most important issues the planet will face in the new century."

"People are afraid of change. I do a lot of public speaking to explain that global warming is real, what the consequences will be. Some people cannot be talked to. The skeptics will try to back you down, so you waste all your time and effort."

In response to the question, "Make your best and briefest case for taking global warming seriously":

"Simply, the amount of greenhouse gases has measurably and dramatically increased. They're higher now than they've been in the last 600 million years. The atmosphere is warmer; the oceans are warmer. The great ice sheets of Antarctica and Greenland, the Arctic ice cover at the end of summer, is less every year -- about 40% of what it was 30 years ago. The evidence is pretty overwhelming: We're living in a melting world and a warming world. And it's just a preview. The sea level has risen 8 inches in the last century."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/....column?page=2

[canam]

blah blah blah if man could effect the climate he would ! they had snow in every state in the country this year, including hawaii's mountains goof ball !! we just entered a cold and snow cycle of ten years duration quit cooking your science, thats the only warming out there!

[deacon blues]

How is it quoting him out of context? The full quote you gave doesn't contradict the point I'm making. Many ppl will say these dramatic weather patterns are a result of global warming when the science is inconclusive. The political agenda that liberals force upon us by using "manmade" global warming is intrusive, economically unnecessary and punitive. Liberals pooh-pooh the Climategate fiasco as if it wasn't a big deal. But the bottom line issue was that the so-called authorities on the subject of manmade global warming were doctoring the data to perpetuate the myth rather than, like real scientists, allow the stats help them come to accurate conclusions, even if those stats ran contrary to popular belief. It revealed the real agenda behind the hype: scientists with liberal political leanings cared more about promoting their liberal philosophies than the truth. A planet billions of years old cannot be accurately judged with 150 years of weather data. Even if there is evidence of a slight increase in temperature, how do we know it is caused by man? We don't know. Just as this NASA scientist admitted---WE DON'T KNOW.

So let's stop pretending like its a proven fact, because it isn't. And there are plenty of credible scientists who disagree with the manmade global warming theory.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

How is it quoting him out of context? The full quote you gave doesn't contradict the point I'm making. Many ppl will say these dramatic weather patterns are a result of global warming when the science is inconclusive. The political agenda that liberals force upon us by using "manmade" global warming is intrusive, economically unnecessary and punitive. Liberals pooh-pooh the Climategate fiasco as if it wasn't a big deal. But the bottom line issue was that the so-called authorities on the subject of manmade global warming were doctoring the data to perpetuate the myth rather than, like real scientists, allow the stats help them come to accurate conclusions, even if those stats ran contrary to popular belief. It revealed the real agenda behind the hype: scientists with liberal political leanings cared more about promoting their liberal philosophies than the truth. A planet billions of years old cannot be accurately judged with 150 years of weather data. Even if there is evidence of a slight increase in temperature, how do we know it is caused by man? We don't know. Just as this NASA scientist admitted---WE DON'T KNOW.

So let's stop pretending like its a proven fact, because it isn't. And there are plenty of credible scientists who disagree with the manmade global warming theory.

Based on the rest of your post, it was clear that you intended to contextualize his statement as a condemning statement towards global warming.

You post the part of his quote calling it irresponsible to blame the weather on global warming, without using the rest of his quote giving his reason why. You then go off into a rant of how global warming is a stupid legend and is a myth.

His entire quote does contradict your point, since it has nothing to do with your point. Your point is that global warming is a scam, his point was not blame weird weather on global warming without knowing for sure.

I would suspect that is why you did not post the link to the USAToday article, since it doesn't back up what you are ranting about.

[riverslivnwtr]

Everytime I hear all this Global warming is and is not nonsense I get hot!!!

[Truthseeker]

GW is a scam.

[Twisp]

I think Jon Huntsman had a pretty good quote on global warming:

“I’m not a meteorologist. All I know is 90 percent of the scientists say climate change is occurring. If 90 percent of the oncological community said something was causing cancer we’d listen to them.”

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I think Jon Huntsman had a pretty good quote on global warming:

“I’m not a meteorologist. All I know is 90 percent of the scientists say climate change is occurring. If 90 percent of the oncological community said something was causing cancer we’d listen to them.”

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/0...am/#more-41357

Most of the warmist have a carbon tax political agenda. Shoddy science and little data. It always changes. We only have 50 years of sat records.

[GISG]

Originally Posted by coadie

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/0...am/#more-41357

Most of the warmist have a carbon tax political agenda. Shoddy science and little data. It always changes. We only have 50 years of sat records.

WHAT? The climate changes???? STOP THE PRESSES!






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