Donald Trump Calls for Obama Birth Certificate

[deacon blues]

Donald Trump has been speaking lately about how President Obama ought to produce a birth certificate. While I don't consider myself a "birther" and I have felt the call to make this an issue a losing effort, DT really has piqued my interest.

First he makes the reasonable observation that all of us, including himself, have to produce birth certificates all the time for various reasons. If you have one, why not produce it? Remove all doubt and show it.

Second, DT has been saying something I didn't realize. BO has spent nearly $2 million fighting this in the courts. If you are a nuturally born citizen, why would you spend that kind of money when you could save yourself a ton of dough and just prove you have a birth certificate?

Third, the Governor of Hawaii is Democrat. The whole state practically is Democrat. The only document produced has been a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is not a birth certificate. A C of LB has bo authorized signatures on it, according to DT.

After hearing The Donald talk about this, I'm kind of saying, "Yeah, really, what's the big deal if you've got one, if everyone questioning you is wrong?" You'd simply produce one, voila! Here it is you birther wackos. But instead BO and his cronies act like they got something to hide.

Obviously his mother never suspected he'd be President and if he was born somewhere else, if it was in a third world country, it was probably difficult to procure documentation of his birth there, so when she returned to Hawaii, she got the C of LB. I don't know, it is interesting to consider.

DT makes the point that Arnold Schwarzenegger can't run for President because of his origin of birth. If BO wasn't born here, he shouldn't be allowed to remain in office or run in 2012.

Before you BO defenders get up in arms, remember the Dan Rather debacle of the 2004 election when fake documents were used to try to prove W was AWOL during his Air National Guard days. Anti-Bush folks felt like, if proven, Bush's AWOL status should've been enough to prevent him from a second term. Had it been proven true, it could've made a difference in the election. Had it not been for the internet and the information age, Dan Rather reporting the story as fact might have been enough to pull it off. The documents were proven forged and Rather lost his job.

But what we are talking here is much more than the son of a powerful political family getting a pass for violating the military code (a serious offense for someone wishing to be Commender-in-Chief). What we are talking here is someone violating a prerequisite of the U.S. Constitution.

If W was fair game to be in question back in 2004 with forged documents as the basis of the case against him, then wy shouldn't BO be in question until he can produce an official document proving his origin of birth required by the Constitution?

[Pressing-On]

I was surprised that someone didn't already start a thread on this.

It is a total hoot and I am loving Donald right now. LOL!

Mark Levin produced his b/c today as well. LOL!

Anyway, Donald has a good point. He said, ""If you go back to my first grade, my kindergarten, people remember me. Nobody from those early years remembers him," Trump said. "If you're going to be president of the United States, it says very profoundly you have to be born in this country."



Get over it, Ferd! I am loving me some Donald today!

[canam]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I was surprised that someone didn't already start a thread on this.

It is a total hoot and I am loving Donald right now. LOL!

Mark Levin produced his b/c today as well. LOL!

Anyway, Donald has a good point. He said, ""If you go back to my first grade, my kindergarten, people remember me. Nobody from those early years remembers him," Trump said. "If you're going to be president of the United States, it says very profoundly you have to be born in this country."



Get over it, Ferd! I am loving me some Donald today!

And no one remembers him in college either,including the people who knew everyone. He is a total fraud that we dont know the half of YET!

[canam]

Actually he should just go to Dan Rather, he could give him one that was "fake but true" ,then both sides would be happy ?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Donald Trump has been speaking lately about how President Obama ought to produce a birth certificate. While I don't consider myself a "birther" and I have felt the call to make this an issue a losing effort, DT really has piqued my interest.

First he makes the reasonable observation that all of us, including himself, have to produce birth certificates all the time for various reasons. If you have one, why not produce it? Remove all doubt and show it.

Second, DT has been saying something I didn't realize. BO has spent nearly $2 million fighting this in the courts. If you are a nuturally born citizen, why would you spend that kind of money when you could save yourself a ton of dough and just prove you have a birth certificate?

Third, the Governor of Hawaii is Democrat. The whole state practically is Democrat. The only document produced has been a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is not a birth certificate. A C of LB has bo authorized signatures on it, according to DT.

After hearing The Donald talk about this, I'm kind of saying, "Yeah, really, what's the big deal if you've got one, if everyone questioning you is wrong?" You'd simply produce one, voila! Here it is you birther wackos. But instead BO and his cronies act like they got something to hide.

Obviously his mother never suspected he'd be President and if he was born somewhere else, if it was in a third world country, it was probably difficult to procure documentation of his birth there, so when she returned to Hawaii, she got the C of LB. I don't know, it is interesting to consider.

DT makes the point that Arnold Schwarzenegger can't run for President because of his origin of birth. If BO wasn't born here, he shouldn't be allowed to remain in office or run in 2012.

Before you BO defenders get up in arms, remember the Dan Rather debacle of the 2004 election when fake documents were used to try to prove W was AWOL during his Air National Guard days. Anti-Bush folks felt like, if proven, Bush's AWOL status should've been enough to prevent him from a second term. Had it been proven true, it could've made a difference in the election. Had it not been for the internet and the information age, Dan Rather reporting the story as fact might have been enough to pull it off. The documents were proven forged and Rather lost his job.

But what we are talking here is much more than the son of a powerful political family getting a pass for violating the military code (a serious offense for someone wishing to be Commender-in-Chief). What we are talking here is someone violating a prerequisite of the U.S. Constitution.

If W was fair game to be in question back in 2004 with forged documents as the basis of the case against him, then wy shouldn't BO be in question until he can produce an official document proving his origin of birth required by the Constitution?

2 Million Dollars? Its 2011 and he can't get a fake one good enough to shut people up? Maybe he should visit Trader's Village, , LOL.

[BeenThinkin]

Great post Deacon. No one living today wrote the constitution, stating that a person had to be born in the United States of America to be eligible to be president. That was written years ago. But, now if an individual simply ask for a part of the rules for being president to be proven he's called a "birther!"

WHY?

My second question, and I don't want to hear a bunch of lip, just answer the question, "If Obama has an original birth certificate, "signed by the doctor present at his birth", why doesn't he present it? WHY...WHY!

WHY NOT!

Every American should be interested in seeing the REAL document. But no! Obama's little yes men have to try to justify his stupidity. If he's got an original he would be doing himself and the country a big service by simply laying it on the table and saying, "There it is!"

Again... "WHY WON"T HE SHOW IT, IF HE HAS ONE?"

WHY WOULD HE SPEND 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO KEEP FROM SHOWING IT?

Is there a liberal anywhere that will answer these questions and not try to make the person asking the question look stupid.

Been Thinkin

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

Great post Deacon.

Terrible post Deacon.

This is why Trump is not a serious contender for the office of the Presidency.

At first, I was a little excited about Trump's run-- but he decided to appeal to the "baser sorts" of our ilk.

I hope he picks Palin as his running mate and they destroy themselves politically speaking in their lunacy.



I don't have access to my original birth certificate. If the state of Maryland does not have it somewhere it is lost forever. The same thing with my original social security card and my original driver's license.

I have had to order a birth certificate on at least three different occasions.

The certificate I have received from the State of Maryland has always been sufficient for passports and other official purposes.


If I was President Obama, I'd never give in to the "birthers", if for no other reason than to stand strong for the next guy's character that people attempt to assasinate.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Terrible post Deacon.

Terrible post Jermyn Davidson

This is why Trump is not a serious contender for the office of the Presidency.

So, Jermyn did he say he wasn't a serious contender? Or is that just you talking?

At first, I was a little excited about Trump's run-- but he decided to appeal to the "baser sorts" of our ilk.

What's that? "Baser sorts!" I'll have to look that one up.

I hope he picks Palin as his running mate and they destroy themselves politically speaking in their lunacy.

Their lunacy? So you're smarter than the two of them? Can you match Trump's bank account? Have you held offices like Palin? You really shouldn't try to tear down others, just to be tearing them down, who have been more successful than you.

I don't have access to my original birth certificate. If the state of Maryland does not have it somewhere it is lost forever. The same thing with my original social security card and my original driver's license.

It seems like you don't keep up with your stuff very well. I think I would quit criticizing others when you can't even take care of your own business. Your original driver's license? I think you get a new one every time the old one expires.

I have had to order a birth certificate on at least three different occasions.

Jerymn? This is not good. Why would you find fault with someone else, even to the point of calling them lunatics, when you admit you can't take care of your own stuff!

The certificate I have received from the State of Maryland has always been sufficient for passports and other official purposes.

Do you know where your passport is?


If I was President Obama, I'd never give in to the "birthers", if for no other reason than to stand strong for the next guy's character that people attempt to assasinate.

You are really, down deep, an Obama lover aren't you? Obama holds on to his birth certificate to protect the next guy's character? Come on JD, you can do better than that!


Don't mean to be mean JD but your remarks about the republicans sure don't care much weigh. Why don't you quit worrying about politics and put more time into taking care of yourself.

Been Thinkin

[Jermyn Davidson]

Terrible post Jermyn Davidson

Hey Been Thinkin!



So, Jermyn did he say he wasn't a serious contender? Or is that just you talking?

I have declared Trump to not be a serious contender for Presidency, based on the recent "chatter" concerning his potential run for the office.



What's that? "Baser sorts!" I'll have to look that one up.

It's a Bible reference. Start there.




Their lunacy? So you're smarter than the two of them? Can you match Trump's bank account?

Just because one is rich doesn't mean they are smart. Mr. Trump can be described as DETERMINED, given the set backs and bankruptcies he has been through.

His appeal to the birthers is not an appeal to the thinkers within the Republican Party, despite the moniker you post under.



Have you held offices like Palin? You really shouldn't try to tear down others, just to be tearing them down, who have been more successful than you.

Success is a journey not a destination. Palin and I have never competed on the same level for anything. Not only that, but Palin tears down Palin. My assessment of her is based on her own self-destruction which we as a country have witnessed over the last three years.




It seems like you don't keep up with your stuff very well.

You have no clue what you're talking about-- if you did, you wouldn't speak like this.


I think I would quit criticizing others when you can't even take care of your own business.

Really dude?



Your original driver's license? I think you get a new one every time the old one expires.

I mentioned this for affect-- but thank you for the reminder.




Jerymn? This is not good. Why would you find fault with someone else, even to the point of calling them lunatics, when you admit you can't take care of your own stuff!

You don't know what you are talking about. There have been multiple jobs that I have applied for that (along with with verification of my clearance) have required "original or certified copies" of my birth certificate.





Do you know where your passport is?

Yes I do.




You are really, down deep, an Obama lover aren't you?

Are you an Obama hater? I have clearly stated that he did not and does not have my vote. Forgive me if I see the senseless attacks on the President as senseless.



Don't mean to be mean JD but your remarks about the republicans sure don't care much weigh.

Well AFF is not exactly the Wall Street Journal or the Washington Times. The point is to discuss. Feel free to interact or not interact with this guy.

[canam]

Of course JD doesnt have an answer for why Obama has a ss card from Conn.having never lived there or worked there. He is an illegal alien with phony papers,which would explain his lack of support on enforcing that issue.Admit it JD he is a fraud.