The Results Of My Poll Are Shocking

Michael The Disciple · #1 01-26-2011, 03:06 PM

My poll asked the question to our Forum members is Jesus God the Father. Out of 1380 active members as of yesterday a whopping 25 people voted! Out of the 25 14 reported they do NOT believe Jesus is God the Father. On the Other hand 11 held that he is.

For a Oneness Forum I consider this to be a staggering defeat for Oneness doctrine.

So my initial impression that the flow of this forum is generally anti Oneness was by no means "nonsense" as it was spinned. It was the actual gauge of where Apostolic Friends Forum currently is.

Well trying to find the good side as I said earlier at least we are allowed to discuss Oneness doctrine here.

The Mrs · #2 01-26-2011, 03:11 PM

Out of 1380 active members, you're taking the voices of 25 and coming up with a 'good' conclusion???

Wow!

Some folks just aren't interested in voting apparently. I didn't. Doesn't mean anything other than I just wasn't interested.

Michael The Disciple · #3 01-26-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mrs

Out of 1380 active members, you're taking the voices of 25 and coming up with a 'good' conclusion???

Wow!

Some folks just aren't interested in voting apparently. I didn't. Doesn't mean anything other than I just wasn't interested.

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

Socialite · #4 01-26-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

The Mrs · #5 01-26-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

Just because someone doesn't feel like taking a poll, shouldn't mean it's synonymous with apathy. It's a forum for crying out loud. Which means we get to pick and choose where we want to spend our time/energy.

mfblume · #6 01-26-2011, 03:43 PM

When JESUS, the NAME, is distinguished as being God the Father, then I agree Jesus is the Father! Oneness teaches JESUS is the NAME of the Father. I never heard of oneness scholars who claimed JESUS is not the name of the Father. Jesus is not a name restricted to the Son. I think people mistaken SON for JESUS, when they hear Jesus is the name of the Father.

Since there is one person in the Godhead, and since a NAME points to a PERSON, Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

Socialite · #7 01-26-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

When JESUS, the NAME, is distinguished as being God the Father, then I agree Jesus is the Father! Oneness teaches JESUS is the NAME of the Father. I never heard of oneness scholars who claimed JESUS is not the name of the Father. Jesus is not a name restricted to the Son. I think people mistaken SON for JESUS, when they hear Jesus is the name of the Father.

Since there is one person in the Godhead, and since a NAME points to a PERSON, Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

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Jesus is not a name restricted to the Son.

I used to believe that. Not sure anymore...

Jesus surely identifies the person of the Messiah, expressed, incarnate and the "Father in flesh." But it would seem to me that the name "Jesus" exclusively refers to the Son of God, the Messiah, Anointed One, The Christ.

James Griffin · #8 01-26-2011, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

Actually no, YOUR question was Jesus God the Father. Even I said no.

They would have even voted no to that question as worded on APF or AFF.

Besides the true litmus test was is Jesus Son of God or God the Son.

100% said Son of God.

Socialite · #9 01-26-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by James Griffin

Actually no, YOUR question was Jesus God the Father. Even I said no.

They would have even voted no to that question as worded on APF or AFF.

Besides the true litmus test was is Jesus Son of God or God the Son.

100% said Son of God.

Why isn't the TRUE litmus test:

"Do believe God is one?"

or

"Do you believe God exists eternally in three persons which are one, or as one deity manifest in three personae?

*AQuietPlace* · #10 01-26-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Thats my point Sister. This is an Apostolic Forum. Only 25 people here cared enough to vote. The apathy is unbelievable. Then the majority who did care reject the very premise that Jesus is the Everlasting Father.

It is a crushing defeat for truth.

Not voting doesn't mean a person is apathetic about their belief system. Some people just don't vote in polls, and some didn't like the wording of the poll.