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Old 01-07-2011, 01:38 PM
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AFF is a BLACK HOLE!

Think about it!! AFF is nothing but a BLACK HOLE of questions, fear, doubt, maybes, what if's, disagreement, and like ALL past generations, this running in circles will never stop!

Every statement made here gets sucked into oblivion!

Stand back and look at this. It's really quite comical, especially when you consider that the Bible is supposed to bring unity and agreement with Faith, or what many boldly claim, THE TRUTH!

I think this simply means, hold your breath…..there are GREY areas!
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Old 01-07-2011, 02:13 PM
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Re: AFF is a BLACK HOLE!

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Think about it!! AFF is nothing but a BLACK HOLE of questions, fear, doubt, maybes, what if's, disagreement, and like ALL past generations, this running in circles will never stop!

Every statement made here gets sucked into oblivion!

Stand back and look at this. It's really quite comical, especially when you consider that the Bible is supposed to bring unity and agreement with Faith, or what many boldly claim, THE TRUTH!

I think this simply means, hold your breath…..there are GREY areas!
VERY GOOD OBSERVATION! I agree.

Some folks DO understand that here, though.
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Re: AFF is a BLACK HOLE!

Well, so far, Not4Sale's statement hasn't been "sucked into oblivion."

I've come to think of the Bible as being a sort of Guidebook, and not some sort of Final Jeopardy style know-it-all "Answer Book." If you go to the Bible looking for absolute answers to everything, you often come back looking rather foolish. Just look at the Young Earth Creationists.

If however, you approach the Bible with a bit of humility and knock-it-off with the "God Talks To Me Inside My Head" nonsense, you do have the opportunity to glean a great deal of wisdom that has been accumulated, refined, stored and transmitted just for this purpose.

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Re: AFF is a BLACK HOLE!

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Well, so far, Not4Sale's statement hasn't been "sucked into oblivion."

I've come to think of the Bible as being a sort of Guidebook, and not some sort of Final Jeopardy style know-it-all "Answer Book." If you go to the Bible looking for absolute answers to everything, you often come back looking rather foolish. Just look at the Young Earth Creationists.

If however, you approach the Bible with a bit of humility and knock-it-off with the "God Talks To Me Inside My Head" nonsense, you do have the opportunity to glean a great deal of wisdom that has been accumulated, refined, store and transmitted just for this purpose.
Yep! Couldn't agree more!

And, it's a good place to talk with ya friends about shoes and grandchildren too!
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Yep! Couldn't agree more!

And, it's a good place to talk with ya friends about shoes and grandchildren too!
True! We talk about all kinds of interesting things, including the good stuff!
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Old 01-07-2011, 05:22 PM
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Well, so far, Not4Sale's statement hasn't been "sucked into oblivion."

I've come to think of the Bible as being a sort of Guidebook, and not some sort of Final Jeopardy style know-it-all "Answer Book." If you go to the Bible looking for absolute answers to everything, you often come back looking rather foolish. Just look at the Young Earth Creationists.

If however, you approach the Bible with a bit of humility and knock-it-off with the "God Talks To Me Inside My Head" nonsense, you do have the opportunity to glean a great deal of wisdom that has been accumulated, refined, stored and transmitted just for this purpose.
To be honest, I was thinking of this very thing today. The Bible is truly an amazing Book. I don't think any other Book on Earth is really quite like it. It can basically go whatever direction you go, and I think this might be the dilemma with people who try to define Scripture.

It appears that God may be a lot more flexible than we think. My wife and I have been doing a little research on Jewish Theology and have found some interesting concepts used by Rabbi's. One that fascinated me was that they believe there are 70 different interpretations to every "Word" in Scripture (Torah), and they are ALL right!

They also believe the Scripture to possess 4 different meanings to every event; allegorical, metaphorical, mystical, and literal, and they are ALL right.

It seems that 2 people can disagree on Scripture using the above method(s), yet they are both right.
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My wife and I have been doing a little research on Jewish Theology and have found some interesting concepts used by Rabbi's. One that fascinated me was that they believe there are 70 different interpretations to every "Word" in Scripture (Torah), and they are ALL right!

They also believe the Scripture to possess 4 different meanings to every event; allegorical, metaphorical, mystical, and literal, and they are ALL right.

It seems that 2 people can disagree on Scripture using the above method(s), yet they are both right.
Within the Jewish religious circles this saying was first coined:

"Where there are two Jews, there are three opinions."

Hmmm Sounds a lot like AFF to me!
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Within the Jewish religious circles this saying was first coined:

"Where there are two Jews, there are three opinions."

Hmmm Sounds a lot like AFF to me!
LOL! Love it!!!
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Within the Jewish religious circles this saying was first coined:

"Where there are two Jews, there are three opinions."

Hmmm Sounds a lot like AFF to me!
This is great!! My wife and I got a good laugh on this one!!
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To be honest, I was thinking of this very thing today. The Bible is truly an amazing Book. I don't think any other Book on Earth is really quite like it. It can basically go whatever direction you go, and I think this might be the dilemma with people who try to define Scripture.

It appears that God may be a lot more flexible than we think. My wife and I have been doing a little research on Jewish Theology and have found some interesting concepts used by Rabbi's. One that fascinated me was that they believe there are 70 different interpretations to every "Word" in Scripture (Torah), and they are ALL right!
A nice theory, but common sense tells us there cannot be contradicting "truths".....

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They also believe the Scripture to possess 4 different meanings to every event; allegorical, metaphorical, mystical, and literal, and they are ALL right.

It seems that 2 people can disagree on Scripture using the above method(s), yet they are both right.
I never heard the "they are all right" about the 4 interpretations. I think it is quite obvious that allegory is a very flimsy interpretation of scripture. To say nothing of mysticism. Maybe those types of beliefs attributed to Jesus telling those whose lifework was to know the law "you do err, not knowing the scriptures" and "have you not read?"

Nothing new, those who are pastors today who "know" the scriptures, don't "know" the scriptures. With their liberal theology and naturalistic explanations they have robbed the scripture of inspiration and attempt to discredit the only Word of God we posess. Without Biblical authority, there remains no authority, we can all be right in our own minds (unless we affirm that another book such as the Quaran, Book of Mormon, Vedas, etc is the Word of God).

The view which takes inspiration away from the Bible is the height of folly, and despite the criticisms of the Bible it continues to be vindicated time and time again.

Call me fundamentalist, simple, whatever, I still believe that God's word is true, and the promises are true. I have experienced this miraculously in my life and though I don't have the answers to all the "why" questions, I certainly do believe that God is able to make all things work together for good.
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