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10-05-2010, 09:33 PM
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World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
At the recent UPC Conference more than one preacher stood in the pulpit and proclaimed that the 2010 Conference was the start of a World Wide Revival. This was it!!! The big one!!! And it may very well have been the beginning of one. But, what if it isn't? Should claims like that be made for all the world to see and hear?
I remember in the late 70's in Louisiana, large outside billboards were erected all over the state proclaiming "The End Time Revival," and was promoted as the final revival, the end was coming, not much time left for getting saved! And it was promoted as imminent! That was well over 30 years ago and, .... well it was not what it was advertised to be? Is that okay? Should we make these kind of proclamations? and if we do shouldn't they come true.
Just thinkin...
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10-05-2010, 09:44 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
I think that the "great revival" we have been looking for all these years is going on already. I think that is going on outside the UPC and ALJC so we tend to ignore it.
Just saying.
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10-05-2010, 09:49 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I think that the "great revival" we have been looking for all these years is going on already. I think that is going on outside the UPC and ALJC so we tend to ignore it.
Just saying.
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Good thought! I don't mean to sound critical in posting this thread ...just thinking out loud, wondering!
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"From the time you're born, 'til you ride in the hearse, there ain't nothing bad that couldn't be worse!"
LIFE: Some days you're the dog and some days you're the hydrant!
I have ... Hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia! The fear of long words.
"Prediction is very hard, especially about the future." - Yogi Berra
"I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave in reflection." - Thomas Paine
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10-05-2010, 10:02 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I think that the "great revival" we have been looking for all these years is going on already. I think that is going on outside the UPC and ALJC so we tend to ignore it.
Just saying.
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I know this is a strange comparison but I view "great revival" going on now like I do the problem with obesity in America.
At the same time that there are more health clubs and healthy foods than ever before the obesity rate among children has been growing exponentially. This seems very strange to me.
Likewise while we see many people turning from traditional dry churches to Spirit filled independent ones the statistics show that so far this "revivial" is not even keeping pace with our population growth.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-05-2010, 10:10 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
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I know this is a strange comparison but I view "great revival" going on now like I do the problem with obesity in America.
At the same time that there are more health clubs and healthy foods than ever before the obesity rate among children has been growing exponentially. This seems very strange to me.
Likewise while we see many people turning from traditional dry churches to Spirit filled independent ones the statistics show that so far this "revivial" is not even keeping pace with our population growth.
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You are right. If you look at the word 'revival' it is speaking about reviving something that was dead or near dead. But revival doesn't really mean bringing in new souls it means bring back souls. We often call it revival when a ton of new people come in but it is not revival.
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10-05-2010, 10:17 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
The next big move of God will not be in the 'church'. You can rest assured that when the next move of God comes, the 'church' will fight it to the bitter end. We saw that 2000 years ago when a new movement and a discarding of the old movement was fought by the organized 'church' of that day.
Something new is coming and it's going to be the beginning of the end for the organized religions of the world.
Are you ready?
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10-05-2010, 10:53 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
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Originally Posted by seekerman
The next big move of God will not be in the 'church'. You can rest assured that when the next move of God comes, the 'church' will fight it to the bitter end. We saw that 2000 years ago when a new movement and a discarding of the old movement was fought by the organized 'church' of that day.
Something new is coming and it's going to be the beginning of the end for the organized religions of the world.
Are you ready?
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There have been several outpourings of the Holy Spirit in these "last days."
One began in the late 1800's and early 1900's in North Carolina, Tennessee, Armenia, India, Topeka, Houston, Los Angeles.
One took place in the 1940's and 1950's and was known as the Healing Revival. Names still remembered are: Branham, Coe, Lindsay, Allen, Roberts and some more.
Another outpouring in the 1940's and 1950's was actually called The Latter Rain.
Then there was the Charismatic Movement which began in 1960.
Then there was the Jesus Movement in the 1960's and 1970's.
Since then we've seen Willow Creek, the Vineyard, Saddleback etc.
I remember the Charismatic movement and the Jesus movement. As a Conservative OP I was quite conflicted. I could see that people were receiving blessings and power from God and were being baptized in the Holy Ghost and operating in the gifts of the Spirit and lives were being changed BUT, they did not look like us and act like us and did not come to us to find out how to be baptized and how to dress. Somehow we OP's believed we had an exclusive franchise on the Holy Spirit and God just ignored us and our little organizations and poured out His Spirit upon those who hungered and thirsted for Him and who sought Him ---and we didn't like it.
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10-05-2010, 11:50 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
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Originally Posted by seekerman
The next big move of God will not be in the 'church'. You can rest assured that when the next move of God comes, the 'church' will fight it to the bitter end. We saw that 2000 years ago when a new movement and a discarding of the old movement was fought by the organized 'church' of that day.
Something new is coming and it's going to be the beginning of the end for the organized religions of the world.
Are you ready?
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Since you don't believe scripture to be inspired, I guess your looking for the next great revival will be post modern new ageism
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10-06-2010, 12:55 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
I think the church of Laodicea is filled with American Christians, UPC and non-UPC alike.
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10-06-2010, 12:56 PM
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Re: World Wide Revival Proclaimed by UPC
I really, really, really hope that a Worldwide world changing, life changing revival doesn't start with the UPCI Houston GC....because that would make all the critics, naysayers, scoffers, railers, and gainsayers on this forum look bad....and we wouldn't want that would we....
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