Obama-Christian By Choice

[Cindy]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/...a_christianity

[coadie]

To succeed in elections, he was told he needed to belong to a Christian Church of somekind.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

To succeed in elections, he was told he needed to belong to a Christian Church of somekind.

Yeah, he was told 20 years ago to become a Christian so that he could get the Presidency in 2008. That makes total sense.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Yeah, he was told 20 years ago to become a Christian so that he could get the Presidency in 2008. That makes total sense.

You can't use quote and cut and paste very well.

To succeed in elections, he was told he needed to belong to a Christian Church of somekind.

He started running for offices other that president.

Do you know why he lied about his mom's religion?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by coadie

You can't use quote and cut and paste very well.



He started running for offices other that president.

Do you know why he lied about his mom's religion?

He was first elected to public office in 1996, so instead of 20 years, he was told 10 years in advance to become a Christian to advance his political career. That makes about as much sense. lol

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Twisp

He was first elected to public office in 1996, so instead of 20 years, he was told 10 years in advance to become a Christian to advance his political career. That makes about as much sense. lol

So it was around 20 years

We know, having read some accounts that part of it had to do with gaining street cred with his work as a community organizer among churches. It only makes sense, and he was advised by a pastor to pick church if he wanted to be truly effective.

And there's a second theory which Scheiber points to as well:
Obama, as the product of a racially-mixed marriage, in which the black father was almost entirely absent, had spent his whole life groping for an authentic identity. Wright offered Obama both the father and the identity he never had.
In fact, I'd guess it was a combination of both - but there's more, and here's where it gets interesting. Scheiber quotes a passage from David Mendell's Obama biography that is revealing. First about Wright:
Wright earned bachelor's and master's degrees in sacred music from Howard University and initially pursued a Ph.D. at the University of Chicago Divinity School before interrupting his studies to minister full-time. His intellectualism and black militancy put him at odds with some Baptist ministers around Chicago, with whom he often sparred publicly, and he finally accepted a position at Trinity. ...
So the aspect of black militancy, as we've seen it reflected in Wright's words and, as he's admitted, is based in James Cone's "black liberation theology". This was well known from the beginning. It is nothing new, but certainly something rarely talked about in the MSM. Very few, if any, news outlets bring this topic up even while Wright continually touts the connection with Cone's theology.

So Comes Black Liberation theology fit obama's political agenda.
http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?entry=8426

He didn't show up at Trinity as a 'worshipper'. As mentioned, he showed up there initially to gain street cred to help him with his job. But he also chose a church that most comfortably fit his political beliefs before he ever began his religious journey. And that church based its theology on black militancy.

Trinity is a black church that strongly supports homosexuality which is not common for black churches.

[coadie]

The president says he came to his Christian faith as an adult because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to him in terms of the kind of life he wanted to lead. President Obama says human beings are flawed and make mistakes, but that he tries to see God in others and does his best to help them.

He also said he thinks his public service is an expression of his Christian faith.

Recent public opinion surveys have shown that growing numbers of Americans incorrectly believe that the president is a Muslim.

President Obama discussed his faith in response to a question Tuesday during an economy discussion with residents in a small farming town south of Albuquerque, N.M.

Works salvation?

[coadie]

"I'm a Christian by choice," Obama told his audience here. "My family didn't - frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. And my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church.

That is a lie. His mom was an atheist.

“Obama does clearly believe that the form of Christianity that he committed to at Trinity Church in 1985 is not the only path to God. ‘I am rooted in the Christian tradition,’ he has said. Nevertheless he asserts, ‘I believe there are many paths to the same place and that is a belief there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.’

Do Twisp and Obama believe Jesus is not the only way?

[Maximilian]

Yeah.... that stupid President... I hate him.... He don't love Jesus. He can't. I mean, his dad is Muslim and he has no choice... he's not a Christian... I don't know him, but I've heard him give speeches... and he can't be a Christian... yeah.. TIC

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Yeah.... that stupid President... I hate him.... He don't love Jesus. He can't. I mean, his dad is Muslim and he has no choice... he's not a Christian... I don't know him, but I've heard him give speeches... and he can't be a Christian... yeah.. TIC

While this kind of rhetoric drives me mad, I don't believe a fair evaluation of what Obama has said would lead one to believe that he understands the Christian faith. He tends to equate Christianity with other religions, He makes statements that equate more with pantheism, (seeing God in everyone)than Christianity, etc.