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Old 07-14-2010, 09:07 PM
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Were The Israelites Black?

DAII posted this in the King James thread.......

"First time I heard about King James' moral failings was on the streets of New York as a young teen ... by the Black Hebrew Israelite cult which preaches hardcore on New York City streets, subway stations, parks, you name it ."



The Israelites couldn't have been Black. The Black culture in Africa has never produced much of anything of cultural value including a written language. The Israelites accomplished far too much socially, economically and culturally for them to have been Black.
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DAII posted this in the King James thread.......

"First time I heard about King James' moral failings was on the streets of New York as a young teen ... by the Black Hebrew Israelite cult which preaches hardcore on New York City streets, subway stations, parks, you name it ."



The Israelites couldn't have been Black. The Black culture in Africa has never produced much of anything of cultural value including a written language. The Israelites accomplished far too much socially, economically and culturally for them to have been Black.
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The ancient Ethiopian script known as Ge'ez is only one of scores of written languages that originated in "black Africa." See the first attachment.

The Vai (modern Liberia), Bamun (modern Cameroon), Mende Ki-Ka-Ku (modern Sierra Leone), N'ko, and Manding from the medieval empires of West Africa, are just a few more examples. One's lack of knowledge about other cultures should not be the basis from which one evaluates those other cultures.

And yeah, no. The "Black Israelites" of NYC are a cult steeped in a number of inventive illusions and the ancient "children of Israel" were NOT "black Africans" any more than Jesus was likely to have had blue eyes and fair skin.
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Paul was a redneck. 'Cause he said "I reckon".
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The Israelites couldn't have been Black. The Black culture in Africa has never produced much of anything of cultural value including a written language. The Israelites accomplished far too much socially, economically and culturally for them to have been Black.

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You're kidding me, right?

Let's start with Egypt.

Even the Sumerian culture has roots in African (and Asian) civilizations ... especially due to its relationship to the Nile

In their own literature, the Sumerians referred to themselves as "blackheads."

I never cease to be amazed at the Western-centric view American Christians hold .... and how it permeates even to their theology and politics ... even their views on dress code holiness
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You're kidding me, right?

Let's start with Egypt.

Even the Sumerian culture has roots in African (and Asian) civilizations ... especially due to its relationship to the Nile

In their own literature, the Sumerians referred to themselves as "blackheads."

I never cease to be amazed at the Western-centric view American Christians hold .... and how it permeates even to their theology and politics ... even their views on dress code holiness
The Nile civilization "has roots" in the far more ancient Mesopotamian culture. You can even trace the evolution of the Egyptian pantheon to developments at different time periods back in Mesopotamia. The Osiris beliefs in the after life were developed in Egypt (and replaced the older Ra cults) long after the Marduk legends had been committed to clay tablets in Mesopotamia.

In the literature of much of the ancient world, the "indigenous" peoples are called "black heads" because of the color of their hair. No one has skin that dark. Picture a thousand "black heads" stooped over their labors in the field while their "overseers" stand out like brazen "dots" because of their lighter hair and complexions. You will notice a uniformity in hair color from Morocco to Malaysia, but a wide variety of skin colors.

In the Ra saga of ancient Egypt, Ra is described as "flying" over Egypt. The people below are described as "black heads" living in what amounts to hunter-gatherer settlements. Ra comes onto the scene and introduces writing, mathematics and "higher culture" to these simple "natives." He teaches them how to build with stone instead of mud wattle.

Ra then faces his greatest nemesis: Typhon/Tiamat (in the older Sumerian/Akkad language). They fight inconclusively and then part to renew their battle. To strengthen himself RA eats "the food of the black heads..." He becomes weak and sickens almost to the point of death. He cannot eat the food of the "indigenous" people, the "black heads." The text is quite emphatic on this - it is said literally to have been "the food of the black heads" (a Sumerian phrase in ancient Egyptian).

What constitutes their diet? Simple bread made from wheat and barley flour and a substance called "liquid bread" made from the same ingredients - beer!
Ra is gluten intolerant. To regather his strength he must eat the "food of the gods" - nuts, fruits, dates, berries and wine. These are the staples of a northern Mesopotamian diet.

Regathering his strength, Ra then confronts the old enemy of the Akkadians (why not an old "Egyptian" enemy?) and defeats her. He then goes about building his kingdom in the land of the Nile.

This whole mythic saga describes the immigration of an "upper class" - a "warrior class" that migrated from Mesopotamia and founded the Egyptian kingdoms that would later coalesce into the Pharaonic dynasties.

Ramesses II ("Ramesses the Great" - the "son of Ra") was a descendant of these people. We have his body, his DNA and his fiery red hair still preserved to this day.

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I dont know!! Maybe Dan can find a pic of them he has the resources.
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Paul was a redneck. 'Cause he said "I reckon".


OMW!!! I about fell outta my chair on that one!
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