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07-03-2010, 11:02 PM
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When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience....
To rules???
By that I mean, religious rules...
"Because you have kept the law I will heal..."
Or "Because you obeyed the command to not cut hair I have healed..."? Where do we find that?
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07-03-2010, 11:08 PM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
What about deliverance of the children of Israel in the OT? And what did He do when the disobeyed?
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07-03-2010, 11:10 PM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
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What about deliverance of the children of Israel in the OT? And what did He do when the disobeyed?
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that's a different question. When did God perform miracles as a reaction to obedience to a religious rule?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-03-2010, 11:11 PM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
Did God say "Because you obeyed my dress code, I will give you manna"?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-03-2010, 11:14 PM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
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that's a different question. When did God perform miracles as a reaction to obedience to a religious rule?
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Oh, I see. I don't think he ever did.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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07-03-2010, 11:23 PM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
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Oh, I see. I don't think he ever did.
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I don't either, but according to LS and the HMH crowd, God does
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-04-2010, 12:21 AM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
Naaman the leper
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07-04-2010, 12:46 AM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
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Naaman the leper
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He was healed for obeying religious rules? Nope.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-07-2010, 09:56 AM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
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He was healed for obeying religious rules? Nope.
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Actually, I think this is the closest example to a "saint" obeying the man of God simply because he is the man of God and God honoring that obedience.
There was nothing in his instructions to Namaan that would be considered to be part of the law. They were just instructions-- from a man to a man.
So from Namaan, can we apply that same kind concept to our day?
If the prophet had told him to do some really difficult thing he would have done it. However, it was simple (and disgusting) but simple to just go and dip in that river like he was told.
God honored his obedience. Was it for Namaan's sake only, to the ends of establishing the legitimacy if the man of God's authority, for the sake of God's own Glory only?
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07-07-2010, 10:08 AM
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Re: When did God Do Miracles because of Obedience.
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Actually, I think this is the closest example to a "saint" obeying the man of God simply because he is the man of God and God honoring that obedience.
There was nothing in his instructions to Namaan that would be considered to be part of the law. They were just instructions-- from a man to a man.
So from Namaan, can we apply that same kind concept to our day?
If the prophet had told him to do some really difficult thing he would have done it. However, it was simple (and disgusting) but simple to just go and dip in that river like he was told.
God honored his obedience. Was it for Namaan's sake only, to the ends of establishing the legitimacy if the man of God's authority, for the sake of God's own Glory only?
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I love how people totaly negate the reality of what they say and act as if something is other than what it is. INSTRUCTIONS ARE LAW from God!
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