The spill in the Gulf is tragic. But obviously the tragedy is being exploited for political gain.
Here are some numbers to put the spill into perspective: the Gulf contains 660 QUADRILLION gallons of water. If the oil spill continues unabated (which is not happening. BP is recovering some of it---but for the sake of a conservative estimate) until mid-August 100 million gallons of oil will have spilled into the Gulf. When you do the math you get the equivalent of a full bathtub with .000001 of a gallon of oil spilled into the water. In other words miniscule.
There was a Texas oil spill many years ago in the 70s that spilled more than a 100 million gallons of oil and no one ever talks about the enduring devastation to the area. It has recovered.
In 1990 Hussein spilled TEN TIMES the amount of oil into the Persian Gulf which is considerably smaller than the Gulf of Mexico and a recent study has determined that the long term impact has been virtually non-existent.
The amount of oil reaching the shore is the sad part of this tragedy because it affects businesses tha depend on a clean Gulf. Small businesses and communities built around these industries will take the big hit. BP should pay for the damages. But our Prez had within his power the ability to galvanize ships and skimmers that couldve reduced the impact.
Holland offered a fleet of skimmers. They were denied. Other nations offered ships designed to clean up spills. They were turned down. A business in Maine had ships that couldve assisted. Again denied. Why? The foreign ships and the Maine ships weren't union. This admin has turned this tragedy into a political football. This is a greater tragedy.
I posted a thread earlier that the expectations of the President to fix everything is misguided. I don't believe the Prez couldve prevented the tragedy. I don't believe the Prez should be expected to fix all of the fallout as a result. But leadership could've been exercised to do more and put the region first ahead of politics. The fact that the James Carvilles, Maureen Dowds, Keith Olbermanns, Chris Matthewses, Arianna Huffingtons of the world are criticizing this president speaks volumes of how big of a failure he has been concerning this tragedy.
Now he's going to shut down the oil rigs further damaging these economies along the Gulf coast. 125,000 jobs overnight will be lost with the stroke of a pen. Rahm Emanuel's philosophy of "never let a crisis go to waste" is being employed here. They know their window of opportunity is shrinking. Obama's approval rating has reached a new low of 42%. The November elections will most likely bring an abrupt halt to this ultra-liberal agenda.
Anyone with buyers remorse yet? Any of you Obama defenders during the elections and the last 18 months of governance willing to admit Obama is failing as a president? I don't relish his poor performance. Believe me I don't. We have people in our church out of work, our income has decreased considerably. People have cut back on giving and we're having to tighten things around here. Believe me, I wish to God Obama would do well. But it appears the Saul Alinsky school of economics is proving to be a failing approach.
Let's keep praying for BO and his advisors that they reverse course and begin to lead, to govern wisely and to turn to the Lord for help.
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The spill in the Gulf is tragic. But obviously the tragedy is being exploited for political gain.
Here are some numbers to put the spill into perspective: the Gulf contains 660 QUADRILLION gallons of water. If the oil spill continues unabated (which is not happening. BP is recovering some of it---but for the sake of a conservative estimate) until mid-August 100 million gallons of oil will have spilled into the Gulf. When you do the math you get the equivalent of a full bathtub with .000001 of a gallon of oil spilled into the water. In other words miniscule.
There was a Texas oil spill many years ago in the 70s that spilled more than a 100 million gallons of oil and no one ever talks about the enduring devastation to the area. It has recovered.
In 1990 Hussein spilled TEN TIMES the amount of oil into the Persian Gulf which is considerably smaller than the Gulf of Mexico and a recent study has determined that the long term impact has been virtually non-existent.
The amount of oil reaching the shore is the sad part of this tragedy because it affects businesses tha depend on a clean Gulf. Small businesses and communities built around these industries will take the big hit. BP should pay for the damages. But our Prez had within his power the ability to galvanize ships and skimmers that couldve reduced the impact.
Holland offered a fleet of skimmers. They were denied. Other nations offered ships designed to clean up spills. They were turned down. A business in Maine had ships that couldve assisted. Again denied. Why? The foreign ships and the Maine ships weren't union. This admin has turned this tragedy into a political football. This is a greater tragedy.
I posted a thread earlier that the expectations of the President to fix everything is misguided. I don't believe the Prez couldve prevented the tragedy. I don't believe the Prez should be expected to fix all of the fallout as a result. But leadership could've been exercised to do more and put the region first ahead of politics. The fact that the James Carvilles, Maureen Dowds, Keith Olbermanns, Chris Matthewses, Arianna Huffingtons of the world are criticizing this president speaks volumes of how big of a failure he has been concerning this tragedy.
Now he's going to shut down the oil rigs further damaging these economies along the Gulf coast. 125,000 jobs overnight will be lost with the stroke of a pen. Rahm Emanuel's philosophy of "never let a crisis go to waste" is being employed here. They know their window of opportunity is shrinking. Obama's approval rating has reached a new low of 42%. The November elections will most likely bring an abrupt halt to this ultra-liberal agenda.
Anyone with buyers remorse yet? Any of you Obama defenders during the elections and the last 18 months of governance willing to admit Obama is failing as a president? I don't relish his poor performance. Believe me I don't. We have people in our church out of work, our income has decreased considerably. People have cut back on giving and we're having to tighten things around here. Believe me, I wish to God Obama would do well. But it appears the Saul Alinsky school of economics is proving to be a failing approach.
Let's keep praying for BO and his advisors that they reverse course and begin to lead, to govern wisely and to turn to the Lord for help.
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Re: The BP Oil Spill: Putting it in Perspective
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
The spill in the Gulf is tragic. But obviously the tragedy is being exploited for political gain.
Here are some numbers to put the spill into perspective: the Gulf contains 660 QUADRILLION gallons of water. If the oil spill continues unabated (which is not happening. BP is recovering some of it---but for the sake of a conservative estimate) until mid-August 100 million gallons of oil will have spilled into the Gulf. When you do the math you get the equivalent of a full bathtub with .000001 of a gallon of oil spilled into the water. In other words miniscule.
There was a Texas oil spill many years ago in the 70s that spilled more than a 100 million gallons of oil and no one ever talks about the enduring devastation to the area. It has recovered.
In 1990 Hussein spilled TEN TIMES the amount of oil into the Persian Gulf which is considerably smaller than the Gulf of Mexico and a recent study has determined that the long term impact has been virtually non-existent.
The amount of oil reaching the shore is the sad part of this tragedy because it affects businesses tha depend on a clean Gulf. Small businesses and communities built around these industries will take the big hit. BP should pay for the damages. But our Prez had within his power the ability to galvanize ships and skimmers that couldve reduced the impact.
Holland offered a fleet of skimmers. They were denied. Other nations offered ships designed to clean up spills. They were turned down. A business in Maine had ships that couldve assisted. Again denied. Why? The foreign ships and the Maine ships weren't union. This admin has turned this tragedy into a political football. This is a greater tragedy.
I posted a thread earlier that the expectations of the President to fix everything is misguided. I don't believe the Prez couldve prevented the tragedy. I don't believe the Prez should be expected to fix all of the fallout as a result. But leadership could've been exercised to do more and put the region first ahead of politics. The fact that the James Carvilles, Maureen Dowds, Keith Olbermanns, Chris Matthewses, Arianna Huffingtons of the world are criticizing this president speaks volumes of how big of a failure he has been concerning this tragedy.
Now he's going to shut down the oil rigs further damaging these economies along the Gulf coast. 125,000 jobs overnight will be lost with the stroke of a pen. Rahm Emanuel's philosophy of "never let a crisis go to waste" is being employed here. They know their window of opportunity is shrinking. Obama's approval rating has reached a new low of 42%. The November elections will most likely bring an abrupt halt to this ultra-liberal agenda.
Anyone with buyers remorse yet? Any of you Obama defenders during the elections and the last 18 months of governance willing to admit Obama is failing as a president? I don't relish his poor performance. Believe me I don't. We have people in our church out of work, our income has decreased considerably. People have cut back on giving and we're having to tighten things around here. Believe me, I wish to God Obama would do well. But it appears the Saul Alinsky school of economics is proving to be a failing approach.
Let's keep praying for BO and his advisors that they reverse course and begin to lead, to govern wisely and to turn to the Lord for help.
Unbelievable, the worst president this country has ever had!
It's quite sickening to see anyone downplay an oil spill. You obviously don't live near the Gulf Coast or weren't anywhere near Alaska back in the late 80's.
Sure, politicians do with events what they do, R's or D's. Be it war, national security, 9/11, oil spills, immigration violence, etc...
The answer is not to cold-turkey our industry. But there are multiple reasons why we should be moving more toward Wind Energy. It will never completely replace the need for oil though. But watching that live camera shot of the oil pumping billions of gallons of oil into the ocean is sickening. Tarred up beaches, lack of fishing and tourism, plus the overall ecological damage is devastating.
It's quite sickening to see anyone downplay an oil spill. You obviously don't live near the Gulf Coast or weren't anywhere near Alaska back in the late 80's.
Sure, politicians do with events what they do, R's or D's. Be it war, national security, 9/11, oil spills, immigration violence, etc...
The answer is not to cold-turkey our industry. But there are multiple reasons why we should be moving more toward Wind Energy. It will never completely replace the need for oil though. But watching that live camera shot of the oil pumping billions of gallons of oil into the ocean is sickening. Tarred up beaches, lack of fishing and tourism, plus the overall ecological damage is devastating.
you got the 4 trillion dollars it will take to put up the transmission lines Wind take?
oh and what do you do when the wind aint blowing?
oh and coal and natural gas supply the electricity to the grid that wind could possibly replace.
Oil is used for transportation. as of yet there is no technology in existance that can supplant gas as the fuel for transportation.
apples and oranges... EXPENSIVE apples and oranges...
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you got the 4 trillion dollars it will take to put up the transmission lines Wind take?
oh and what do you do when the wind aint blowing?
oh and coal and natural gas supply the electricity to the grid that wind could possibly replace.
Oil is used for transportation. as of yet there is no technology in existance that can supplant gas as the fuel for transportation.
apples and oranges... EXPENSIVE apples and oranges...
That's all you got? lol
The money is there. Let's not haggle on that. Just look at the money invested in energy in this country and you'd know that. I'm not sure where the 4 Trillion estimate comes from, but that's not really the problem.
If you read my post, I said I don't see it feasible for oil to be completely replaced. Dependency on it can be much reduced though.
For transportation, technology is definitely there to move us away from gasoline. It's a matter if that's what the country wants.
You act like the oil industry is a frugal cog in the business world. It's expensive apples-to-apples my friend.
Don't buy for a second any of the mainstream media's line about this being good for BP. The White House made clear yesterday that the $20 billion was just a down payment and in no way represented a cap on BP's liability.
Yes, BP did get the White House to say they do not want to see BP driven into bankruptcy. But who does that promise really serve? Now look at how the deal between the White House and BP is structured. BP is not handing over a $20 billion novelty check tomorrow. Instead they are set to pay $3 billion in the third quarter of this year, $2 billion in the fourth, and then $1.25 billion per quarter thereafter. In the meantime, BP has identified $20 billion worth of assets in the United States that the federal government now has a lien on. In the event of a bankruptcy, guess who gets to jump in line and have their claims honored first? Still guessing? Then ask Chrysler's secured creditors.
Yesterday's "voluntary" deal between BP and the Obama administration was nothing less than a continuation of President Barack Obama's ongoing assault on the rule of law. Capitalism only succeeds if it is a profit and LOSS system. Well-managed firms should have every right to keep their profits, but mismanaged firms must be allowed to suffer losses. By all accounts of what transpired on the Deepwater Horizon, BP is a terribly mismanaged firm. If the damage they caused is great enough, they should be allowed to fail. Failure is a necessary component of capitalism. But this administration refuses to allow the rule of law to work. From Fannie Mae to Freddie Mac, from GM to Chrysler, from AIG to Citibank, our government continues to subvert the established rule of law. This lawlessness creates uncertainty in the business environment, and it is a huge reason why our economy is not recovering as it should be.
Last night on CNN former Clinton Administration message man James Carville said: "It looks as if President Obama applied a little old-school Chicago persuasion to the oil executives." Making "offers you can’t refuse" may be a great way to run the mob, but it is no way to run a country.
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