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Old 04-27-2007, 03:20 PM
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Lightbulb Speaking of which...TRANSGENDERED?

Anyone seen the new thing...now that the homosexual agenda is firmly planted in our society, 20/20 is now bringing a program tonight on transgendered children. Shall we accept yet another form of propaganda which takes what God has created, both male and female, and have the audacity to say that God had a genetic mistake when he made us?

I feel, at times, that I was born into the twilight zone...Come Quickly Lord Jesus!

Unlike Brad who thinks I am judgemental...I know what the scripture says to be sin and it don't matter what we think or feel...NO SIN will enter heaven. And as the scripture declares...many of those who call him Lord will not enter, and he will say, "Depart from me I never knew you".

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Old 04-27-2007, 03:36 PM
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I personally think all this is a sign of the times and those of us who have the truth need to be well able to defend it and stand for it no matter what the cost.

Sincerely, Rhoni
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:37 PM
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Rhoni, what do you mean by 'transgendered' and what is the propaganda that 20/20 is putting forth?
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:39 PM
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Rhoni, what do you mean by 'transgendered' and what is the propaganda that 20/20 is putting forth?
The boys who although physically they are male think they are female inside, and vica versa. The soaps and the talk shows are becoming inundated with this. People are going through sex change operations to become a different sex than what they were born.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:42 PM
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The boys who although physically they are male think they are female inside, and vica versa. The soaps and the talk shows are becoming inundated with this. People are going through sex change operations to become a different sex than what they were born.
What amazes me about this is that your fellow "mental health professionals" seem to think that the only way to correct this disorder is to change the body to match the disordered thinking. What about changing the disordered thinking?
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:47 PM
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What amazes me about this is that your fellow "mental health professionals" seem to think that the only way to correct this disorder is to change the body to match the disordered thinking. What about changing the disordered thinking?
I know of no such mental health professionals but I do believe you. It was lobbied to remove homosexuality from the DMS-IV, now this will probably be added and then subtracted also...makes me want to change professions, almost...
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Old 04-27-2007, 04:20 PM
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What amazes me about this is that your fellow "mental health professionals" seem to think that the only way to correct this disorder is to change the body to match the disordered thinking. What about changing the disordered thinking?
Just to correct you. I am a senior in the psychology program at Andrews University and I have not met one professor yet (most of which are clinical psychologists) who advocates changing the body. The whole of psychology does not embrace sex reassignment surgery. Just to let you know
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Old 04-27-2007, 04:33 PM
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Just to correct you. I am a senior in the psychology program at Andrews University and I have not met one professor yet (most of which are clinical psychologists) who advocates changing the body. The whole of psychology does not embrace sex reassignment surgery. Just to let you know
Any of the psychologists I've known, and the few mental health records I've read of transgendered people, have always steered the person toward the goal of sex reassignment surgery.
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Old 04-27-2007, 04:15 PM
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The boys who although physically they are male think they are female inside, and vica versa. The soaps and the talk shows are becoming inundated with this. People are going through sex change operations to become a different sex than what they were born.
Ok, I thought you were referring to hermaphrodites or something of that nature.
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Old 04-27-2007, 03:38 PM
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I hate to get involved in yet another forum but I will say this. Even I do not completely understand the transgendered issue. There is a part of me that struggles with wrapping my brain around it to be quite honest. I suppose the fact that I have not experienced this kind of feeling means that I likely will never truly understand it.

I think my main problem with the transgendered issue is the fact that it usually leads to mutilation of the individuals genitals via sex reassignment surgery. Something about that seems beyond what God would want His children to go through. On the other hand, I have been homosexual since as far back as I can remember and get extremely frustrated when people suggest that it's a choice and judge me out of fear or lack of understanding.

It is for this reason that I am open to at least hearing what the transgendered community has to say about their "disorder." Part of me thinks that it is an extreme reaction to an underlying homosexual orientation and that with proper therapy the transgendered individual could learn to live as they are with the genitalia they were born with. I'll have to try and catch the 20/20 episode tonight.

I would like to respond to Rhoni’s comment about this being some kind of homosexual agenda. I can tell you as an open homosexual who is very much involved with both the political and religious aspects surrounding homosexuality that the “homosexuality community” is not conspiring against the straight community in any way shape or form. The community certainly is not creating this sort of transgendered issue with children as some sort of evil conspiracy.
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