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Old 04-26-2007, 12:57 PM
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David sat in the church pew contemplating his hate for his wife. for several years their love had fizzled away to the deep resentment he was feeling now. They both had learned to "fake" their "Holy Ghost", but knew the chasm was too great to fix. He was about ready to slip away quietly and start his life over. He could no longer stand the harping and nagging he heard incessantly.

Now even the preaching was even getting on his nerves.

What began as moods and failure to accomodate the basics of marriage had blossomed to hypocrisy; why?

The begining of the law was given with the prioritizing of the promises. Leviticus stated clearly to reverance the sanctuary. The Hebrew origianations of this statement wasn't pointing to the Tabernacle because the tabernacle in the same chapters had its own proactive laws.

This could have been stated; "To morally fear the failure of protecting the things of God you have consecrated." Our minds think church, and even the scriptures point to the sabbaths, but, this included so much more in the plans to bless from God.

Marriages are one of God's main focuses to bless our lives. If we neglect to morally fear to protect the bond and union of the marriage, it creates a chasm that God will not walk with us. Later, God stated that to do these things would fulfill the relationship with Him and He would walk with his people, and to neglect?

Defauding a marriage is razor-blade across the throat of love. We cannot change the way we need certain things. Some women have to have a regular confirmation of their value, something a man is not equipped to naturally do. Some men need a regular feeling of a manly shot of championing their home and fulfilling his natural emotion of master and leader. To defraud one another steals a precious part of natural needs and displeases God.

When the woman becomes frustrated and stressed, she begins to demand and expect things beyond her husbands understanding. When the man is neglected, the chasm of love and devotion widens, and his desire to keep, protect and honor is swallowed up in the emotion of resentment.

Sometimes the chasm grows quietly until all love and dedication is washed away in the bitter emotions of self-absorbed neglect. It will eventually turn to the relatonship of God and His people when those emotions are spread outward.

How you treat the things consecrated to God are very important, but nothing does more subtle damage to a congregation as those "unknown" emotions one deals with when they are not fulfilled as a human-being. Eventually the trouble blossums into a negative energy that affects many.

Paul was clear. Defaud not. You do not own your bodies. Simple, huh? The briefest moment of carelessness concerning reverancing this Holy act can destroy hearts and lives for decades.
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:15 PM
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Welcome to Apostolic Friends Bro Perry.

Deep discussion for sure.

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Old 04-26-2007, 01:56 PM
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Excellent RP! Funny how we know these things, read these things and still struggle with it - male and female.
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:59 PM
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:18 PM
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Sex in Marriage is very important... Intimacy is Golden...

Let me ask this..

How much should Pastors preach Intimacy and Sex in Marriage?

Sometimes it just needs to be said... appropriatly of course....

Maybe in the years they attended the church they might have not gotten so cold had it been taught from the Pulpit...

The light is there... sometimes you just need to tell folks how to flip the switch..


imo...
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:27 PM
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Sex in Marriage is very important... Intimacy is Golden...

Let me ask this..

How much should Pastors preach Intimacy and Sex in Marriage?

Sometimes it just needs to be said... appropriatly of course....

Maybe in the years they attended the church they might have not gotten so cold had it been taught from the Pulpit...

The light is there... sometimes you just need to tell folks how to flip the switch..


imo...
Incontinacy has delivered a whole new package of problems into the church. When sex became a social priority, then every convert needed to be schooled. And one of the symptoms of it is the ED anomaly.

Andropause, diabetes, stress and other factors play a part in its need of awareness and to be open. How much? I don't know. But the need is increasing everyday. Both male and female suffer from the libido dysfuction. And when one of the marriage suffers, they both pay the price. And it need not be so.
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:35 PM
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Excellent posts RP!

I believe it's a topic that needs to be discussed more, just how much more I don't know. I believe we could have happier Christians if they were able to discuss some of these issues - - like you've so gracefully said, it is a God thing!
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Good to see the Warren brethren coming on board.
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Old 04-26-2007, 02:46 PM
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How much depends on the need. With the growing social problems caused by incontinacy, each convert needs to be schooled often in relationship counceling.

With andropause, menopause, diabeites, stress and others, many are facing libido dysfuction as well as the ED anomaly. The world is heralding these causes because of the market available. We must take note of the dangers and teach however it behooves our flock.
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How much depends on the need. With the growing social problems caused by incontinacy, each convert needs to be schooled often in relationship counceling.

With andropause, menopause, diabeites, stress and others, many are facing libido dysfuction as well as the ED anomaly. The world is heralding these causes because of the market available. We must take note of the dangers and teach however it behooves our flock.
Amen....

There many relationship issues that need to be addressed...

How to Communicate..
How to be Committed to each other...
How to forgive..
How to love...
How to lead...

So many things...
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