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Old 02-11-2010, 03:44 PM
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Nuclear Iran

I have concluded that after a decade of warnings of Iran and it's nuclear ambitions that governments in the west WANTED Iran to develop the capability.

Yes one man on capital hill can be a total idiot, but all of them? No. Same goes for Europe. They whined about it. They cried "sanctions" that did nothing.

And what did WE do? We invaded Iraq and found nothing.
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Re: Nuclear Iran

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I have concluded that after a decade of warnings of Iran and it's nuclear ambitions that governments in the west WANTED Iran to develop the capability.

Yes one man on capital hill can be a total idiot, but all of them? No. Same goes for Europe. They whined about it. They cried "sanctions" that did nothing.

And what did WE do? We invaded Iraq and found nothing.
If we stablize Iraq and it becomes a friendly nation we have a base of operations right next door to Iran. Doubt Iran would nuke their next door neighbor. We can conduct covert and overt military operations from Iraq... if it's a stablized friend of the United States.

Could this have been a reason why the Bush Administration played so dirty to justify a war with Iraq? Just thinking....
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If we stablize Iraq and it becomes a friendly nation we have a base of operations right next door to Iran. Doubt Iran would nuke their next door neighbor. We can conduct covert and overt military operations from Iraq... if it's a stablized friend of the United States.

Could this have been a reason why the Bush Administration played so dirty to justify a war with Iraq? Just thinking....
a stable Iraq is shiite majority would be an ally of Iran. I doubt the US will be performing military operations against Iran from a shiite Iraq.
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a stable Iraq is shiite majority would be an ally of Iran. I doubt the US will be performing military operations against Iran from a shiite Iraq.
What if our goal isn't a Shiite Iraq?
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:32 PM
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What if our goal isn't a Shiite Iraq?
Our goal? Our goal is to set up a stable government and RUN. BTW the previous government we ran down, was a Sunni ran government. And IF it appears we are trying to set up again a Sunni ran government, you can be sure there really will be no end to the insurgency...most of which is Shiite now.
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If we stablize Iraq and it becomes a friendly nation we have a base of operations right next door to Iran. Doubt Iran would nuke their next door neighbor. We can conduct covert and overt military operations from Iraq... if it's a stablized friend of the United States.

Could this have been a reason why the Bush Administration played so dirty to justify a war with Iraq? Just thinking....
Let's not forget, it wasn't W or his administration that first talked of war against Iraq, nor was he or his administration the first to talk about WMD's.

Need we revisit the pages of quotes available from the Clinton years and from Democrats who demanded action before the second Iraq War began? I'm sick of hearing this absolute garbage about W's admin "playing so dirty" or lying about WMDs, etc.

The intelligence he - along with Clinton and several Democratic and Republican Congressmen - relied on was terrible.

W's not to blame for the intelligence, nor for the lack of WMDs, nor for playing dirty as you say.
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If we stablize Iraq and it becomes a friendly nation we have a base of operations right next door to Iran. Doubt Iran would nuke their next door neighbor. We can conduct covert and overt military operations from Iraq... if it's a stablized friend of the United States.

Could this have been a reason why the Bush Administration played so dirty to justify a war with Iraq? Just thinking....
if if if....Iraq stablized? It was stable before we invaded. Friendly? We we could have been friendly, but that is a long long story lol.

Saudi Arabia, we have a base there and that is pretty close. And why do we need a base of operations when we have a flotilla regularly stationed in the gulf?

Fears of Iran nuking Iraq are not what anyone is concerned about.

It's too late to conduct any sort of operations. The time to have done it was a LONG LONG time ago

No, it should have played dirty to justify a war with Iran.
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if if if....Iraq stablized? It was stable before we invaded. Friendly? We we could have been friendly, but that is a long long story lol.

Saudi Arabia, we have a base there and that is pretty close. And why do we need a base of operations when we have a flotilla regularly stationed in the gulf?

Fears of Iran nuking Iraq are not what anyone is concerned about.

It's too late to conduct any sort of operations. The time to have done it was a LONG LONG time ago

No, it should have played dirty to justify a war with Iran.
All good points. I was trying to remain positive. lol
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I have concluded that after a decade of warnings of Iran and it's nuclear ambitions that governments in the west WANTED Iran to develop the capability.

Yes one man on capital hill can be a total idiot, but all of them? No. Same goes for Europe. They whined about it. They cried "sanctions" that did nothing.

And what did WE do? We invaded Iraq and found nothing.
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