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02-04-2010, 03:35 PM
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Oneness people aren't saved?
Interesting blog with provoking discussion. The post needs some Oneness representatives so jump in!
Though the topic isn't Oneness per se (but rather is heresy is "damnable" in terms of affecting one's salvation or not), but it's creating that argument.
http://nearemmaus.wordpress.com/2010...resy-salvific/
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02-04-2010, 03:52 PM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
yeah... we could have a few hard core AFFers tell em they are on the way to hell - not to mention all the others they are discussing.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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02-04-2010, 04:56 PM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
Brian is a brilliant mind. If memory serves he beat out my Lady Cass as class valedictorian! But I will take my salutatorian over him any day!
He has got too much facial hair for me anyway.
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02-04-2010, 05:15 PM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
Good call, Dan! Facial hair tickles
Brian -- great guy. Though he's gone the way of not just seeing Christology through the lens of diversity, but outright rejecting his Oneness roots.
But yes, he has a brilliant mind. The conversation on the comment thread there is blowing up.
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02-04-2010, 09:12 PM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
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Good call, Dan! Facial hair tickles
Brian -- great guy. Though he's gone the way of not just seeing Christology through the lens of diversity, but outright rejecting his Oneness roots.
But yes, he has a brilliant mind. The conversation on the comment thread there is blowing up. |
Interesting list of names chiming in ... JG, JD and even our own Praxeas.
I don't play with Godhead ninjas.
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02-04-2010, 11:06 PM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
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Interesting list of names chiming in ... JG, JD and even our own Praxeas.
I don't play with Godhead ninjas.
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02-05-2010, 04:41 AM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
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Interesting list of names chiming in ... JG, JD and even our own Praxeas.
I don't play with Godhead ninjas.
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What is a "Godhead ninja" anyway?
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02-06-2010, 10:10 AM
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Genesis 11:10
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
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Originally Posted by DAII
Interesting list of names chiming in ... JG, JD and even our own Praxeas.
I don't play with Godhead ninjas.
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Godhead assassin-Praxeas?
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02-04-2010, 05:44 PM
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
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Trinitarians and Oneness believers have certain things in common like a belief in the full deity of Jesus and the full humanity of Jesus, yes. We both believe that Jesus is one Person, yes. But when we unpack this stuff we see just how drastically different these seeming commonalities are. Trinitarians believe that Jesus is one person: the Son. We believe that he’s the Son in relation to the Father and the Holy Spirit and that he’s been such from all eternity. We believe that from the time of the Incarnation he has possessed two natures fully: deity & humanity. I believe that this understanding of Jesus is supported by Scripture. Oneness believers believe that Jesus is one person with two natures as well, but they see these two natures as the Father/deity and the Son/humanity. The Son has not been the Son from all eternity but became the Son in the Incarnation with the addition of humanity. The Son is the Son in relation to the Father but this relation is neither personal since the Father and the Son are the selfsame person, i.e., Jesus, nor is it eternal since the Son only became the Son in the Incarnation. This is an understanding of Jesus that I don’t believe is supported by Scripture.
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The gloves are off.
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02-04-2010, 05:51 PM
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Jesus' Name Pentecostal
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Re: Oneness people aren't saved?
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Trinitarians and Oneness believers have certain things in common like a belief in the full deity of Jesus and the full humanity of Jesus, yes. We both believe that Jesus is one Person, yes. But when we unpack this stuff we see just how drastically different these seeming commonalities are. Trinitarians believe that Jesus is one person: the Son. We believe that he’s the Son in relation to the Father and the Holy Spirit and that he’s been such from all eternity. We believe that from the time of the Incarnation he has possessed two natures fully: deity & humanity. I believe that this understanding of Jesus is supported by Scripture. Oneness believers believe that Jesus is one person with two natures as well, but they see these two natures as the Father/deity and the Son/humanity. The Son has not been the Son from all eternity but became the Son in the Incarnation with the addition of humanity. The Son is the Son in relation to the Father but this relation is neither personal since the Father and the Son are the selfsame person, i.e., Jesus, nor is it eternal since the Son only became the Son in the Incarnation. This is an understanding of Jesus that I don’t believe is supported by Scripture.
The Son is only the humanity?
That's all there is to the Son of God?
Just a human?
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