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Old 04-24-2007, 04:45 PM
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Question When Itching Ears Control the Preaching....

This thread was indirectly inspired by the "When Fashion Controls the Church...." thread....



have you ever seen a church where the itching ears of the saints controlled the type and/or content of the preaching....
in your opinion, how frequent does this happen in Pentecost?? What leads to this happening and if so, what is the best way to correct it?

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Old 04-24-2007, 04:48 PM
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This thread was indirectly inspired by the "When Fashion Controls the Church...." thread....

have you ever seen a church where the itching ears of the saints controlled the type and/or content of the preaching.... in your opinion, how frequent does this happen in Pentecost?? What lead to this happening and if so, what is the best way to correct it?
You know, I don't think I've ever seen it. I've seen content change once a pastors child got to be a certain age and that which WAS wrong -- was no longer.

It's a good question. I've seen the accusations but haven't ever really experienced it.
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You know, I don't think I've ever seen it. I've seen content change once a pastors child got to be a certain age and that which WAS wrong -- was no longer.

It's a good question. I've seen the accusations but haven't ever really experienced it.
I don't believe I have ever seen it either.
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The best way to correct it is to preach.
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The best way to correct it is to preach.
right you are, CS....
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This thread was indirectly inspired by the "When Fashion Controls the Church...." thread....



have you ever seen a church where the itching ears of the saints controlled the type and/or content of the preaching....
in your opinion, how frequent does this happen in Pentecost?? What leads to this happening and if so, what is the best way to correct it?


I've seen the Money People, the Big tithers do this in some instances.

in other cases, sometimes it was the pastor's family that caused him not to preach certain things
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:52 PM
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I've seen the Money People, the Big tithers do this in some instances.

in other cases, sometimes it was the pastor's family that caused him not to preach certain things
so noone else besides Thad has ever seen a preacher "buckle" under the pressure of the "Money People" pulling their tithes/offerings or threaten to leave if the preacher doesn't back away from a topic/conviction/etc???

huh...
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so noone else besides Thad has ever seen a preacher "buckle" under the pressure of the "Money People" pulling their tithes/offerings or threaten to leave if the preacher doesn't back away from a topic/conviction/etc???

huh...
Actually, no. I've seen it threatened. My dad was threatened once -- it didn't work. He doesn't like ultimatums...
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I've seen the Money People, the Big tithers do this in some instances.

in other cases, sometimes it was the pastor's family that caused him not to preach certain things
Actually, I was going to say the exact precisely the same thing as Thad did.

I think the opposite is true as well.

You can pretty much tell the transgressions of the church by listening to the preacher. I had one of those messages preached to me once, it was because I refused to bow to masculine and pastoresque leadership on the part of his daughter and wife.

Some things belong in the office and not behind the pulpit. Respect and relationships are trashed by doing the former.
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