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10-29-2009, 03:52 PM
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What is the First Death?
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
If this is the second death what is the first death?
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10-29-2009, 04:58 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
Salvation! 
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10-29-2009, 05:21 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
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Well Jesus died but when did we die?
I know we are buried in baptism. Do you consider that to be death?
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10-29-2009, 05:21 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
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Well Jesus died but when did we die?
I know we are buried in baptism. Do you consider that to be death?
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And I know Paul said "I die daily" repentance.
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10-30-2009, 06:11 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
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And I know Paul said "I die daily" repentance.
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Paul was not talking about repentance in his I DIE DAILY statement in 1 Cor 15. That is a common misunderstanding. He was speaking of physically risking his neck every day. He spoke of the jeopardy of his life in peril due to ministry. 1 Cor 15's die daily is the same sort of death 2 Cor 4 mentions when Paul said his perils were like death of Christ in his body so the life of Christ might be manifest in his ministry to others.
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10-30-2009, 06:09 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
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Well Jesus died but when did we die?
I know we are buried in baptism. Do you consider that to be death?
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Indeed! We are baptized into His death, so we are crucified with Him, dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God. So, we present ourselves to God as those alive from the dead. Baptism is death.
The idea that repentance is death, baptism is burial and Spirit is resurrection is not biblical, and often has taken the place of what the Bible actually said in baptism being into DEATH.
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10-29-2009, 05:22 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
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Another thought, if salvation is the first death and that scripture is talking about hell, that indicates no salvation, so what would be their first death?
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10-29-2009, 07:16 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
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Or not, depending upon the individual's choice. 
Many would say it's the natural death that comes to all.
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10-29-2009, 06:24 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
If we can be born again, they can die again.
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10-29-2009, 07:15 PM
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Re: What is the First Death?
The first death is physical death. The second death is destruction in the lake of fire.
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