I believe it means to live a blessed life that is abundantly clear that it can only come from God. And I do not just mean material blessings. Having peace in the midst of a storm, for example. I do not think it is political or governmental. But it certainly excludes any thoughts of hatred towards them, lol.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Here's what I believe will provoke Israel to jealousy: when they see the believers of Jesus keeping God's Commandments (in Spirit and Truth) and operating in the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit.
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Shalom uv’racha b’shem Yeshua Mishikheinu!
Peace and blessings unto you in the Name of Yeshua, Our Messiah!
Here's what I believe will provoke Israel to jealousy: when they see the believers of Jesus keeping God's Commandments (in Spirit and Truth) and operating in the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit.
Thanks, brother. Do you believe these commandments are the ten commandments, for example? And if so, is keeping them in Spirit and truth not necessarily keeping a 7th day holy, but keeping what the seventh day represented and foreshadowed, i.e. an eternal rest in God's Spirit every day of our lives?
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Thanks, brother. Do you believe these commandments are the ten commandments, for example?
Yes, and more.
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And if so, is keeping them in Spirit and truth not necessarily keeping a 7th day holy, but keeping what the seventh day represented and foreshadowed, i.e. an eternal rest in God's Spirit every day of our lives?
In reference to the Sabbath, keeping it in Spirit and Truth means doing it the way Jesus did it instead of leaning on our own understanding.
The 'rest' refers to ceasing from our effort to obtain salvation.
Since we have salvation through Jesus, we can now cease from trying to be saved by our own works/deeds/efforts. However, having this eternal rest in Jesus does not preclude us from keeping the Sabbath day holy, nor does it give us permission to create a Sabbath day that fits our lifestyle or situation, i.e. choosing Sunday to be one's Sabbath day.
NOTE: Worshiping Jesus on Sunday is not the issue. There's nothing wrong with Sunday worship. The issue is what we do on Saturday.
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I’m not a scholar, just a crazy Jewish Believer who wants to see no one deceived and everyone saved.
Shalom uv’racha b’shem Yeshua Mishikheinu!
Peace and blessings unto you in the Name of Yeshua, Our Messiah!
In reference to the Sabbath, keeping it in Spirit and Truth means doing it the way Jesus did it instead of leaning on our own understanding.
The 'rest' refers to ceasing from our effort to obtain salvation.
Since we have salvation through Jesus, we can now cease from trying to be saved by our own works/deeds/efforts. However, having this eternal rest in Jesus does not preclude us from keeping the Sabbath day holy, nor does it give us permission to create a Sabbath day that fits our lifestyle or situation, i.e. choosing Sunday to be one's Sabbath day.
NOTE: Worshiping Jesus on Sunday is not the issue. There's nothing wrong with Sunday worship. The issue is what we do on Saturday.
I guess we disagree here. Saturday is no more holy than any other day. All days are holy to the believer. I think that keeping the Sabbath in Spirit and truth is keeping the antitype of the seventh day, which is a spiritual entrance that Adam never did experience. The seventh day was only a shadow. And it was a memorial for OLD creation, of which we are no longer a part. We are a new creation, and the rest is not a 24 hour period, but a LIFE.
We keep the BODY and not the shadow of the body, which body is Christ. Regards!
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
And probably because most people aren't interested in the salvation of the Jewish people.
Dispensationalism teaches that when Jesus raptures The Church from earth, The LORD of HOSTS will again turn His attention to Israel and protect them through The Tribulation period, culminating in their complete deliverance by Jesus and His Saints along with the archangel Michael and his army of angels. Most Christians are influenced by dispensational teachings and therefore aren't concerned about sharing Jesus with Jewish people when they believe that God has a special plan for them anyway.
Both dispensationalism and dual covenant theology are as phony as a 3 dollar bill.
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I’m not a scholar, just a crazy Jewish Believer who wants to see no one deceived and everyone saved.
Shalom uv’racha b’shem Yeshua Mishikheinu!
Peace and blessings unto you in the Name of Yeshua, Our Messiah!
Regarding Paul, Paul said that the shadow of sabbaths was a shadow ot hings to come. he did not mean they would come from the standpoint of the time of his writing about that statement. He was saying that, from the standpoint of of the day in which shadows were implemented before Christ, they were shadows of things to come.
Paul only kept sabbaths in order to reach Jews. He actually said that He became AS A JEW, necessitating him to believe he actually was not any more, except in regards to his past lineage where he would say "according to the flesh".
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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