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Old 07-28-2009, 08:42 AM
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Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real

By JAYMES SONG, Associated Press Writer Jaymes Song, Associated Press Writer – Tue Jul 28, 1:54 am ET

HONOLULU – State officials in Hawaii on Monday said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen, and therefore meets a key constitutional requirement for being president.

They hoped to stem a recent surge in the number of inquiries about Obama's birthplace.

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

So-called "birthers" — who claim Obama is ineligible to be president because, they argue, he was actually born outside the United States — have grown more vocal recently on blogs and television news shows.

Fukino issued a similar press release Oct. 31, but was prompted to speak out again because of the renewed attention on Obama's beginnings. Hawaii's Health Department has been flooded in recent weeks with questions from individuals and several national TV news networks asking for proof that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

"They just keep asking over and over and over again," Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo said.

The Constitution states that a person must be a "natural-born citizen" to be eligible for the presidency. Birthers contend that Obama's birth certificate is a fake, and many say he was actually born in Kenya, his father's homeland. They've challenged his citizenship in court.

One widely circulated YouTube clip of a town hall meeting showed a Republican congressman getting booed for saying Obama is a citizen. Talk show host Rush Limbaugh and CNN's Lou Dobbs have also raised the issue, and 10 Republican members of Congress co-sponsored a bill that would require future presidential candidates to provide a copy of their original birth certificate.

However, it appears Congress has moved on and has accepted Obama's island birthplace. The U.S. House on Monday unanimously approved a resolution recognizing and celebrating the 50th anniversary of Hawaii becoming the 50th state. A clause was included that reads: "Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961."

State law bars the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who does not have a tangible interest.

However, Obama's birth certificate along with birth notices from the two Honolulu newspapers were brought forward even before he took office. But that's done nothing to shake the belief by many Obama critics that the president was born abroad.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/...th_certificate

Maybe now we can quit with this nonsense and go back to debating issues that have merit.
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So now you get your news from homosexual supporting Yahoo now? You know they also employ people who eat meat. Now I see you've degraded to being nothing more than a tree-hugging liberal.

BTW, a house fire claimed the life of an elderly man's cat. Obama wants to cover up this horrible crime by insisting that his BC is real when we all know he was born in southern China.

Sources? Aren't you the one who claims to know everyone who shops on HSN? I'm sure the President of that company is dishonest just like you.














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How can they do that? They said they destroyed the birth certificates in 2001

This is hearsay.






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BORN IN THE USA?
CNN wrong once again – birth record not destroyed
Hawaii contradicts network boss' claim that Obama certificate no longer exists

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Posted: July 27, 2009
8:36 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily



CNN's Jon Klein
Directly contradicting CNN chief Jon Klein – who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing President Obama's birth certificate – the Hawaii Department of Health affirmed that no paper birth certificates were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping.

"I am not aware of any birth certificate records that have been destroyed by the department," Janice Okubo, public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, told WND. "When the department went electronic in 2001, vital records, whether in paper form or any other form, [were] maintained. We don't destroy records."

Okubo affirmed that beginning in 2001, all vital records, including birth records, moved to electronic formats.

"Any records that we had in paper or any other form before 2001 are still in file within the department," she insisted. "We have not destroyed any vital statistics records that we have."

Last Thursday, Klein, CNN's U.S. president, told staffers of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" the issue of Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to be president is a "dead" story.

1st eligibility movie debuts on Obama's birthday! Order the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential mystery!

According to MediaBistro.com, Klein wrote in an e-mail that CNN researchers found Hawaiian records were discarded in 2001 when the state's records system went electronic. Therefore, Klein said, Obama's original long-form birth certificate no longer exists. A computer-generated abbreviated version that has been promoted on the Internet is the official record, he said.

"It seems to definitively answer the question," Klein wrote. "Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead – because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef."

(Story continues below)




Hawaii's Okubu refused to say whether the DOH has Obama's original long-form birth certificate, explaining state law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.

Okubu's refusal to comment on the status of Obama's long-form birth certificate seemed to contradict an Oct. 31, 2008, letter by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of health for the state of Hawaii. Fukino claimed she personally saw and could verify that Hawaii had Obama's original long-form birth certificate on file.

But both Okubu and Fukino are now on the record contradicting CNN's claim that Hawaii had destroyed Obama's long-form birth certificate when the health department went electronic in 2

So a state official says they are legaly not allowed to comment? Then you google yahoo and accept their comments?

Twisp, you aren't honest enough to explain why Obama said before chrismas he was born at Queens and this months was not born at queens but at Ka'anapoli


Liars cover for liars.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:28 AM
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How can they do that? They said they destroyed the birth certificates in 2001

This is hearsay.






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BORN IN THE USA?
CNN wrong once again – birth record not destroyed
Hawaii contradicts network boss' claim that Obama certificate no longer exists

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Posted: July 27, 2009
8:36 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily



CNN's Jon Klein
Directly contradicting CNN chief Jon Klein – who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing President Obama's birth certificate – the Hawaii Department of Health affirmed that no paper birth certificates were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping.

"I am not aware of any birth certificate records that have been destroyed by the department," Janice Okubo, public information officer for the Hawaii DOH, told WND. "When the department went electronic in 2001, vital records, whether in paper form or any other form, [were] maintained. We don't destroy records."

Okubo affirmed that beginning in 2001, all vital records, including birth records, moved to electronic formats.

"Any records that we had in paper or any other form before 2001 are still in file within the department," she insisted. "We have not destroyed any vital statistics records that we have."

Last Thursday, Klein, CNN's U.S. president, told staffers of "Lou Dobbs Tonight" the issue of Obama's birth certificate and his eligibility to be president is a "dead" story.

1st eligibility movie debuts on Obama's birthday! Order the DVD that probes this unprecedented presidential mystery!

According to MediaBistro.com, Klein wrote in an e-mail that CNN researchers found Hawaiian records were discarded in 2001 when the state's records system went electronic. Therefore, Klein said, Obama's original long-form birth certificate no longer exists. A computer-generated abbreviated version that has been promoted on the Internet is the official record, he said.

"It seems to definitively answer the question," Klein wrote. "Since the show's mission is for Lou to be the explainer and enlightener, he should be sure to cite this during your segment tonite. And then it seems this story is dead – because anyone who still is not convinced doesn't really have a legitimate beef."

(Story continues below)




Hawaii's Okubu refused to say whether the DOH has Obama's original long-form birth certificate, explaining state law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.

Okubu's refusal to comment on the status of Obama's long-form birth certificate seemed to contradict an Oct. 31, 2008, letter by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of health for the state of Hawaii. Fukino claimed she personally saw and could verify that Hawaii had Obama's original long-form birth certificate on file.

But both Okubu and Fukino are now on the record contradicting CNN's claim that Hawaii had destroyed Obama's long-form birth certificate when the health department went electronic in 2

So a state official says they are legaly not allowed to comment? Then you google yahoo and accept their comments?

Twisp, you aren't honest enough to explain why Obama said before chrismas he was born at Queens and this months was not born at queens but at Ka'anapoli


Liars cover for liars.
I didn't google this. It was on the frontpage of Yahoo.

As far as what hospital Obama said he was born in, you didn't provide any authentic source material for that quote. Of course I am not going to discuss something that you can't provide a source on. It is useless. When you do, then we will.

I think this information will show that the majority of birthers hate the man, and will not allow reason, common sense, or logic to enter their mind. Case in point, coadie.
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I didn't google this. It was on the frontpage of Yahoo.

As far as what hospital Obama said he was born in, you didn't provide any authentic source material for that quote. Of course I am not going to discuss something that you can't provide a source on. It is useless. When you do, then we will.

I think this information will show that the majority of birthers hate the man, and will not allow reason, common sense, or logic to enter their mind. Case in point, coadie.
real

You are deceptive. Hating dishonest and deception is valid. Your decipt by streeeeetching it and saying one hates the man is "creating a distraction"

I can't find who hates him. You are creating a strawman.

reason, common sense, or logic

Play this silly cannard?

Back at ya buddy.

What is the reson he hides and pays 2 million dollars to cover? Does that fit the "reasonable man " test?

Logic. Iff you can't win in court, spend 2 million dallars to keep it out of court


Common sense: If a person has common sense, it is worth a lot of money to keep from getting caught.




hospital Obama said he was born in



I told you several times where he came up with that. It was on his

In an official letter signed by Obama on White House stationery, the president celebrates his birth at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii. The facility has posted that letter on its website, along with video of the letter being read in public.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/...3901225647000/


"Obama described his birth at Queen's Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an 'all-America' story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience."


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

Then we see the same page recently changed.

In testing we find deception when we answer questions correctly the the deciever keeps asking it. It is a covering defense mechanism.

I can see what you are doing and it tells me you are not looking for truth.

My professinnal training can tell when deception is used to cover deception.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...hiaajaz/gGxqmC

I am posting another link where Obama had his place of birth as Queens.
There are pictures of how he posted different information and changed it.



You lied. To be accurtate and truthfull. I provided a link to Obama's own personal site. Are you saying his OWN site is not anauthentic source?


Obama wiill not be able to be interviewed live eye to eye by a person trained at detecting lies.

I did look at a video clip where he gives strong stressfull lying signals.

YAHOO. whoopie do.

Yahoo says the AP says that HI says that Obama's press release says that Obama wrote in his sighned autographed book that ..........


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real

You are deceptive. Hating dishonest and deception is valid. Your decipt by streeeeetching it nad saying one hates the man is "creating a distraction"

reason, common sense, or logic

Play this silly cannard?

Back at ya buddy.

What is the reson he hides and pays 2 million dollars to cover? Does that fit the "reasonable man " test?

Logic. Iff you can't win in court, spend 2 million dallars to keep it out of court


Common sense: If a person has common sense, it is worth a lot of money to keep from getting caught.




hospital Obama said he was born in



I told you several times where he came up with that. It was on his

In an official letter signed by Obama on White House stationery, the president celebrates his birth at the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii. The facility has posted that letter on its website, along with video of the letter being read in public.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/...3901225647000/


"Obama described his birth at Queen's Medical Center in Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza Province in Kenya, as an 'all-America' story transcending orthodox racial stereotypes and experience."


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103306

Then we see the same page recently changed.

In testing we find deception when we answer questions correctly the the deciever keeps asking it. It is a covering defense mechanism.

I can see what you are doing and it tells me you are not looking for truth.

My professinnal training can tell when deception is used to cover deception.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/commu...hiaajaz/gGxqmC

I am posting another link where Obama had his place of birth as Queens.
There are pictures of how he posted different information and changed it.



You lied. To be accurtate and truthfull. I provided a link to Obama's own personal site. Are you saying his OWN site is not anauthentic source?


Obama wiill not be able to be interviewed live eye to eye by a person trained at detecting lies.

I did look at a video clip where he gives strong stressfull lying signals.

YAHOO. whoopie do.

Yahoo says the AP says that HI says that Obama's press release says that Obama wrote in his sighned autographed book that ..........

FINALLY! Some sources from you that aren't just WND or your own opinions. Thank you very much.

That's not even from him. That is from a blog. Did you fail to see that?

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Want to try again?

Back to the original topic, do you now also believe that Hawaii's health director is lying again?
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FINALLY! Some sources from you that aren't just WND or your own opinions. Thank you very much.

That's not even from him. That is from a blog. Did you fail to see that?

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By KHATPATI - Nov 13th, 2008 at 9:36 am EST


Want to try again?

Back to the original topic, do you now also believe that Hawaii's health director is lying again?
Surely finding someone that agrees with him is worth credibility, isn't it? LOL!

If you can't find proof, post someone else saying what you are claiming. That's just as good.
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Coadie, I already posted for you. You are free to go.
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On the Chicago TV show "Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz" on June 27, 2002, state Sen. Obama said, "Right now, my main focus is to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we..."

"You working hard for Rod?" interrupted Berkowitz.

"You betcha," said Obama.

"Hot Rod?" asked the host.

"That's exactly right," Obama said.
Same Obama that fakes being like "honest Abe"
In 2004, then-Gov. Blagojevich enthusiastically endorsed Obama for the Senate seat after he won the nomination, and Obama endorsed Blagojevich for his 2006 re-election race in early 2005.


UPDATE: An Obama Transition Team aide says that Axelrod misspoke on Fox News Chicago.)

(UPDATE #2: Axelrod this evening issued a statement saying. "I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.")

There are no allegations that President-elect Obama or anyone close to him had anything to do with any of the crimes Gov. Blagojevich is accused of having committed.
While insisting that the President-elect had not expressed a favorite to replace him, and his inclination was to avoid being a "kingmaker," Axelrod said, "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."
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Asked what contact he'd had with the governor's office about his replacement in the Senate, President-elect Obama today said "I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening."
I like Obama. He is creating havoc and corruption to America however. Obama lied re Gov Blagojevech, He says no one spoke and then tapes show they did. Axelrod has to change the story to fit the new facts.
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On the Chicago TV show "Public Affairs with Jeff Berkowitz" on June 27, 2002, state Sen. Obama said, "Right now, my main focus is to make sure that we elect Rod Blagojevich as Governor, we..."

"You working hard for Rod?" interrupted Berkowitz.

"You betcha," said Obama.

"Hot Rod?" asked the host.

"That's exactly right," Obama said.
Same Obama that fakes being like "honest Abe"
In 2004, then-Gov. Blagojevich enthusiastically endorsed Obama for the Senate seat after he won the nomination, and Obama endorsed Blagojevich for his 2006 re-election race in early 2005.


UPDATE: An Obama Transition Team aide says that Axelrod misspoke on Fox News Chicago.)

(UPDATE #2: Axelrod this evening issued a statement saying. "I was mistaken when I told an interviewer last month that the President-elect has spoken directly to Governor Blagojevich about the Senate vacancy. They did not then or at any time discuss the subject.")

There are no allegations that President-elect Obama or anyone close to him had anything to do with any of the crimes Gov. Blagojevich is accused of having committed.
While insisting that the President-elect had not expressed a favorite to replace him, and his inclination was to avoid being a "kingmaker," Axelrod said, "I know he's talked to the governor and there are a whole range of names many of which have surfaced, and I think he has a fondness for a lot of them."


I like Obama. He is creating havoc and corruption to America however. Obama lied re Gov Blagojevech, He says no one spoke and then tapes show they did. Axelrod has to change the story to fit the new facts.
Since you are trying to send us down different avenues now, I can only suspect that you believe he is a natural born US citizen and have no further rebuttals in regards to that conspiracy. Is this true?
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