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05-13-2009, 03:07 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Here's My Definition of "Apostolic Identity."
Lee Grady (Charisma Magazine's Editor) is right.
Times are changing - in a BIG way.
I believe this generation is tired of clothesline religion, and they're leaving it in droves.
Pentecostalism is shedding Wesleyan Holiness theology, and Apostolics are shedding Pentecostalism.
Apostolics are de-emphasizing the power of Pentecost at the same time Pentecostalism is spreading like wildfire.
Weirdness.
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05-13-2009, 03:08 PM
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
It's confusing, and hard to keep up with our new labels.
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05-13-2009, 03:09 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Originally Posted by edjen01
interesting.
please define what you consider to be Apostolics and Pentecostal/Pentecostalism
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Apostolics are those people who are now embarrassed to call themselves Pentecostal because "Pentecostal" isn't legalistic enough for them any more.
I mean, hey, EVERYBODY claims to be Pentecostal nowadays! And this global outpouring of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is not real revival because most of these 1 billion people plus who have spoken in tongues do not follow legalistic, 19th century standards.
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05-13-2009, 03:11 PM
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Apostolics are those people who are now embarrassed to call themselves Pentecostal because "Pentecostal" isn't legalistic enough for them any more.
I mean, hey, EVERYBODY claims to be Pentecostal nowadays! And this global outpouring of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is not real revival because most of these 1 billion people plus who have spoken in tongues do not follow legalistic, 18th century standards.
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Now really, these are 19th century and early 20th century standards. We're only out of date by about 60-some years.
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05-13-2009, 03:21 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Now really, these are 19th century and early 20th century standards. We're only out of date by about 60-some years.
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Sorry, I'll go change it to 19th century.
Thanks. 
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05-13-2009, 11:18 PM
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Apostolics are those people who are now embarrassed to call themselves Pentecostal because "Pentecostal" isn't legalistic enough for them any more.
I mean, hey, EVERYBODY claims to be Pentecostal nowadays! And this global outpouring of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is not real revival because most of these 1 billion people plus who have spoken in tongues do not follow legalistic, 19th century standards.
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That is an absurd definition of what an Apostolic is and just because you use larger fonts than everyone else does not make you right.
BTW you know what they say about people that constantly post in large fonts and bold letters right?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-14-2009, 01:02 AM
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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BTW you know what they say about people that constantly post in large fonts and bold letters right?
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They need glasses?
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05-14-2009, 02:05 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
They need glasses?
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something like that.... 
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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05-13-2009, 11:52 PM
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
Apostolics are those people who are now embarrassed to call themselves Pentecostal because "Pentecostal" isn't legalistic enough for them any more.
I mean, hey, EVERYBODY claims to be Pentecostal nowadays! And this global outpouring of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is not real revival because most of these 1 billion people plus who have spoken in tongues do not follow legalistic, 19th century standards.
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where did you get this info? it doesn't make sense.
6 billion on planet earth...1 in 6 on the entire planet are tongue talkers...this is not so in the city I live in. how can these numbers include the millions who have never heard of Jesus or the Bible...how can this be so when the 2 most populated countries (India & China) don't have this ratio.
fuzzy math....did you get these numbers from Al Gore? 
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05-14-2009, 08:19 AM
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Re: Here's My Definition of our new Apostolic Iden
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Originally Posted by edjen01
where did you get this info? it doesn't make sense.
6 billion on planet earth...1 in 6 on the entire planet are tongue talkers...this is not so in the city I live in. how can these numbers include the millions who have never heard of Jesus or the Bible...how can this be so when the 2 most populated countries (India & China) don't have this ratio.
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I think the numbers are right.
They do say 6 - 700,000,000 Christians today claim Asusa Street as there denomination or movements beginnings.
However the One Billion people claim does not secify LIVING people, but takes into account all peopel that have lived.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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