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Old 02-04-2009, 08:34 AM
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Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theology!

I've been reading about this topic for some time now, but I can't fully grasp what the core differences between a "1-stepper" and a "3-stepper".

Someone please enlighten me.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:43 AM
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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

Its an old issue around here. Many of us are tired of even talking about it.

But these threads will give you a solid understanding of what the differences are.

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=20347
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=10349
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=14145
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=13950
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:53 AM
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Gotcha. Thanks for the links.
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Old 02-04-2009, 10:42 AM
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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

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I've been reading about this topic for some time now, but I can't fully grasp what the core differences between a "1-stepper" and a "3-stepper".

Someone please enlighten me.
We've cussed and discussed this over and over and I see that you have been given some links so this post may be redundant.

As far as I know these forums are the only place we use the terms "one-stepper and three-stepper." They are some times used with descriptive words like "PCI one-stepper" and "PAJC three-stepper." This goes back to 1945 when the UPC was formed. Two organizations were merged. They were the PCI (Pentecostal Church Inc.) and the PAJC (Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ). Many (we really don't know the figures or percentage) of the PCI ministers believed that a person was justified/saved/ born again at repentance and then should get baptized in Jesus' Name as a testimony and act of obedience and as a child of God that person was also promised an experience called the Holy Ghost Baptism. Many (and again we don't know the figure or percentage) of the PAJC ministers believed a person was not justified/saved/born again until that person had repented, been baptized in Jesus' Name and had received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

So, both PCI and PAJC, or both one-steppers and three-steppers believe in Oneness, both believe in baptism in Jesus name. and both believe in the Holy Ghost Baptism. There just is not agreement as to how and when a person is actually saved or born again.

Because there was opposition among both PCI and PAJC ministers to the merger, the fundamental doctrine statement was written the way it was so those of both opinions could agree to it. Some ministers did not go along with the merger and the PAJC organization still exists today.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:22 AM
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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

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We've cussed and discussed this over and over and I see that you have been given some links so this post may be redundant.

As far as I know these forums are the only place we use the terms "one-stepper and three-stepper." They are some times used with descriptive words like "PCI one-stepper" and "PAJC three-stepper." This goes back to 1945 when the UPC was formed. Two organizations were merged. They were the PCI (Pentecostal Church Inc.) and the PAJC (Pentecostal Assemblies of Jesus Christ). Many (we really don't know the figures or percentage) of the PCI ministers believed that a person was justified/saved/ born again at repentance and then should get baptized in Jesus' Name as a testimony and act of obedience and as a child of God that person was also promised an experience called the Holy Ghost Baptism. Many (and again we don't know the figure or percentage) of the PAJC ministers believed a person was not justified/saved/born again until that person had repented, been baptized in Jesus' Name and had received the Holy Ghost Baptism.

So, both PCI and PAJC, or both one-steppers and three-steppers believe in Oneness, both believe in baptism in Jesus name. and both believe in the Holy Ghost Baptism. There just is not agreement as to how and when a person is actually saved or born again.

Because there was opposition among both PCI and PAJC ministers to the merger, the fundamental doctrine statement was written the way it was so those of both opinions could agree to it. Some ministers did not go along with the merger and the PAJC organization still exists today.
Sam you left out the most important part. One steppers believe a person can go to heaven without being baptised in Jesus name or recieving the HG.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:10 PM
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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

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Sam you left out the most important part. One steppers believe a person can go to heaven without being baptised in Jesus name or recieving the HG.
I thought I said that.
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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

one-step = right

three-step = wrong

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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

One Step - Leaves folks in the Grave - Repentance only

Three Step- Offers folks a Resurrection - Believes that a person must be filled with the Holy Ghost to overcome the world...

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Re: Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theolo

Initial salvation BEGINS with repentance but is not COMPLETE without water and spirit baptism.

My version of the three step doctrine.
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Initial salvation BEGINS with repentance but is not COMPLETE without water and spirit baptism.

My version of the three step doctrine.

According to my Bible the initial step begins with believing.
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