How do you feel about a pastor or minister that forces the worship during worship to make God move is this healthly for the congregration or does it put fear in the hearts of the church members or does just program the church members on how to give a unsincere response when they worship.
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How do you feel about a pastor or minister that forces the worship during worship to make God move is this healthly for the congregration or does it put fear in the hearts of the church members or does just program the church members on how to give a unsincere response when they worship.
In what way can a pastor force worship?
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Yeah, everybody knows about them ultracon pastors calling people out to "take a lap" and smothering their poofs with an anointed noogie.
I think Kings Kid probably had something else in mind, though. Leading a great worship service takes a real gift and every pastor I ever heard of is keen to find ways to tune his approach and to find good leaders to be used in their churches. Sometimes it really is hit or miss and the only way to "learn" is on the job. This makes for plenty of opportunities to get it wrong.
I know what you mean.... I have been to churches where it seems like there is a lot of coaching in song service. It personally bugs me, but I can see the benefit sometimes. For instance - I'll raise my hands if I feel the urge to -- I don't really need to be told to.
I also think that overzealous song leaders go on too long because they like to hear themselves sing... it goes on past the "glorify God" stage on occasion and becomes a concert.
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How do you feel about a pastor or minister that forces the worship during worship to make God move is this healthly for the congregration or does it put fear in the hearts of the church members or does just program the church members on how to give a unsincere response when they worship.
I hope there never comes a day that I have to feel I was forced to worship my God.
I Love Him, I gladly give Him praise and worship.
Either you love Him and want to worship Him or you don't. Don't think that can be forced.
You may give lip service but that is not worship. IMO
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
I hope there never comes a day that I have to feel I was forced to worship my God.
I Love Him, I gladly give Him praise and worship.
Either you love Him and want to worship Him or you don't. Don't think that can be forced.
You may give lip service but that is not worship. IMO
My understanding of what was meant was whether a pastor or other minister should try to "create" an atmosphere that may not exist when maybe it's time to move on to another part of the service. I think there is a time and place in services for music, worship, preaching, etc. And I do think that sometimes those running the service may not proceed with a keen attention to the flow of the service. On the other hand, I think that the pastor may be MORE aware than the congregation that a move of God is imminent, and try to encourage them to stay in the right frame of mind to receive it.
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Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. — André Gide
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds... - Ralph Waldo Emerson
My understanding of what was meant was whether a pastor or other minister should try to "create" an atmosphere that may not exist when maybe it's time to move on to another part of the service. I think there is a time and place in services for music, worship, preaching, etc. And I do think that sometimes those running the service may not proceed with a keen attention to the flow of the service. On the other hand, I think that the pastor may be MORE aware than the congregation that a move of God is imminent, and try to encourage them to stay in the right frame of mind to receive it.
I understand what your saying. Sometimes it does seem as though they are trying to make something happen when the spirit doesn't seem to be moving. I guess that is their job to try and inspire folks to get the spirit moving.
I have more of an issue on the other end of the service, when everyone is asked to come down instead of letting the spirit move on you to come to the altar.
But I know both instances folks have been blessed by obeying the leadership.
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Happy moments, PRAISE GOD.
Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
Quiet moments, WORSHIP GOD.
Painful moments, TRUST GOD.
Every moment, THANK GOD.
My understanding of what was meant was whether a pastor or other minister should try to "create" an atmosphere that may not exist when maybe it's time to move on to another part of the service. I think there is a time and place in services for music, worship, preaching, etc. And I do think that sometimes those running the service may not proceed with a keen attention to the flow of the service. On the other hand, I think that the pastor may be MORE aware than the congregation that a move of God is imminent, and try to encourage them to stay in the right frame of mind to receive it.
I agree with you there needs to be an atmosphere that needs to be created. Instead of a minister getting up and saying we wants his church to worship like an apostolic church.
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