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Old 12-03-2008, 02:29 PM
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Prosthelizing from new org

What is the opinion of the new org mass mailing to the UPCI ministers.
Do they have a statement as to their justification for this. My pastor has not inquired about anything from them and yet he recieves their magazine.
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Old 12-03-2008, 02:46 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

This is considered "unethical" and "sheep stealing" by some.
But, isn't most Oneness Pentecostal evangelism based on getting church members out of their churches and into a Pentecostal church?
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:12 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

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But, isn't most Oneness Pentecostal evangelism based on getting church members out of their churches and into a Pentecostal church?
Why don't you take a poll of all the OP pastors here and see if that is their method of evangelism!
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:08 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

The upci is raiding the aljc...
The wpf is raiding the upci...

Brings me to a point I made on another thread how an organization that is consistently claiming considerable increases in membership fail to crack a million constituents without counting people from foreign countries.

We don't expect preachers to raid saints. Organizations should be held to the same standard.

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This is considered "unethical" and "sheep stealing" by some.
But, isn't most Oneness Pentecostal evangelism based on getting church members out of their churches and into a Pentecostal church?
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:32 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

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What is the opinion of the new org mass mailing to the UPCI ministers.
Do they have a statement as to their justification for this. My pastor has not inquired about anything from them and yet he recieves their magazine.
Highly unethical. I can't believe it is still going on if this is true.
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Old 12-03-2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

Here's a thread where we discussed this before:

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...t=mailing+list
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

What makes it unethical to try to persuade a consenting adult to your view of things?

-Bro. Alex
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:10 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

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What makes it unethical to try to persuade a consenting adult to your view of things?

-Bro. Alex

The same thing as it would be unethical for a minister to leave a mother church and continue to "make contact" with members from the church he just left showing them what was going on in the new church he was starting.
I know it has been bantered about before, but it is still wrong no matter how one wants to rationalize it.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:31 PM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

This is the same group who says it is okay to have computers which bring pornography into the home with little effort, yet outlaw television which has systems set in place where one could be lucky if a Disney cartoon could pass through the filter. Legalists are experts at rationalizing. Pharisees have self righteouss justification down pat. They lied right from the start. We all knew they were going to do it so it should be no suprise.


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The same thing as it would be unethical for a minister to leave a mother church and continue to "make contact" with members from the church he just left showing them what was going on in the new church he was starting.
I know it has been bantered about before, but it is still wrong no matter how one wants to rationalize it.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:10 AM
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Re: Prosthelizing from new org

But orgs grow by recruiting people, so why shouldn't the WPF send something out to all the apostolic ministers it can contact to let it know about its fellowship?
If someone wants to join them it's not sheep/pastor stealing, that person chose to join that org.

I don't understand this "ethics" thing, but I am also indep, so I don't often come across this sort of stuff (or will in the future, since I plan to stay indep), I guess...

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