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Old 11-11-2008, 04:41 PM
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A Divided church (Article) Election dividing Races

Interesting Article By Charisma on race and the election



http://ministrytodaymag.com/ministry...-10/story1.php


Although last week’s historic election of Barack Obama as the United States’ next president obviously shattered racial barriers, many Christian leaders say it also highlighted a still-prevalent racial divide among churches and believers. Associated Press exit polls showed that 74 percent of white evangelical Christians voted for Republican candidate John McCain, while 94 percent of African-American believers voted for Obama. Yet according to many leaders, the underlying differences—and problems—emerged long before a single vote was cast.

“I think in the eagerness to protect the right to life issues, there were some things said … that were not always fair and that were insensitive that need to be rethought,” said T.D. Jakes, founding pastor of The Potter’s House in Dallas. “I would love to see black and white Christians find common ground, and a deeper understanding of each other’s needs.”
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:43 PM
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~ GOSPEL SINGER SHIRLEY CEASAR SAID THE FOLLOWING....



Other black leaders voiced a stronger objection to the pre-election rhetoric, particularly from the white-dominated Christian right...

Taking a more historical viewpoint, Shirley Caesar-Williams, pastor of Mount Calvary Word of Faith Church
in Raleigh, N.C., told her congregation that “God has vindicated the black folk."





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Old 11-11-2008, 04:47 PM
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Other black leaders voiced a stronger objection to the pre-election rhetoric, particularly from the white-dominated Christian right: "What they did is insult our biblical understanding," said Derrick W. Hutchins, a leader in the predominantly black Church of God in Christ. "The white religious right-wing determined that if you didn't vote for McCain, you were not meeting a standard of the Bible."[/
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Old 11-11-2008, 04:49 PM
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Old 11-12-2008, 11:36 PM
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Other black leaders voiced a stronger objection to the pre-election rhetoric, particularly from the white-dominated Christian right: "What they did is insult our biblical understanding," said Derrick W. Hutchins, a leader in the predominantly black Church of God in Christ. "The white religious right-wing determined that if you didn't vote for McCain, you were not meeting a standard of the Bible."[/

I understand this statement. This is why it is wrong to intermingle politics and religion in the first place, especially when both major political parties share glaring, current examples of hypocrisy.


A vote for Sen. McCain was not a vote to end abortion in America.

Besides, legislative Christianity ceases to be true Christianity the minute it is legislated.

President Obama said it best when he said (paraphrase) we need to address abortion at the root of the problem instead of focussing on a situation that accounts for less than 2% of all abortions performed in America.

Yes, I am against legalizing PBA. However, his point is the most Christian and relevant statement that I've heard from a politician.


Real Christianity addresses the roots of sin, not just the sinful manifestation.
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I understand this statement. This is why it is wrong to intermingle politics and religion in the first place, especially when both major political parties share glaring, current examples of hypocrisy.


A vote for Sen. McCain was not a vote to end abortion in America.

Besides, legislative Christianity ceases to be true Christianity the minute it is legislated.

President Obama said it best when he said (paraphrase) we need to address abortion at the root of the problem instead of focussing on a situation that accounts for less than 2% of all abortions performed in America.

Yes, I am against legalizing PBA. However, his point is the most Christian and relevant statement that I've heard from a politician.


Real Christianity addresses the roots of sin, not just the sinful manifestation.


check out this story of Obama's startling response to the funeral of a partically aborted baby then check back with me

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/791108632.html
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check out this story of Obama's startling response to the funeral of a partically aborted baby then check back with me

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/791108632.html
It was Obama's henchmen.


At great peril I ask, what kind of life would "Shaniece" have lived?

Let's compare this to the Terri Schiavo case.

Her husband, many years ago, had decided to pull the plug on his wife, to let her die.

Her parents tried to intervene, dragging out the case.

The whole time, Ms Schiavo was suffering.

In the end, she died.

"Shaniece" would have died too.


What happened was horrible, it was disgusting, heartless and cruel.

But she would have died anyway.


Obama, from his own mouth, has said that we need to address why abortions are happening in the first place.

This is the real Christian response to sin.

To focus on the tragic, unfortunate realities of our sinful world only makes us more emotional and not necessarily more rational.
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~ GOSPEL SINGER SHIRLEY CEASAR SAID THE FOLLOWING....



Other black leaders voiced a stronger objection to the pre-election rhetoric, particularly from the white-dominated Christian right...

Taking a more historical viewpoint, Shirley Caesar-Williams, pastor of Mount Calvary Word of Faith Church
in Raleigh, N.C., told her congregation that “God has vindicated the black folk."




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Wow. Issues don't matter. It's all about racial vindication
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Wow. Issues don't matter. It's all about racial vindication


But don't you think this article confirms that very idea? The standard for many was "racial vindication" at the expense of issues that SHOULD be important to Christians, such as abortion and the gay agenda.
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