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Old 10-31-2008, 06:03 PM
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I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

... I actually thought these pictures of him with these kids were kinda nice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_139183.html

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Old 10-31-2008, 06:26 PM
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Re: I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

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... I actually thought these pictures of him with these kids were kinda nice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_139183.html

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I like Obama! I think he better in touch and has a deeper understanding of the average American daily life!
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Old 11-01-2008, 12:53 PM
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I like Obama! I think he better in touch and has a deeper understanding of the average American daily life!
That is the problem with most of America.

They want to pattern their life, their ambition, their giving around the average.

The average american is so deeply in debt because of their "need" to have
-vs- their need to better their income first.

I do not want a president that is satisfied with average.

That is the great hope of the Democrat party.

Keep our base at average or below average.

If you are satisfied with Average than you vote for your candidate.

As for me and my kids.

I have a High School education and did not go to college.

I found what I am good at and made myself better.

I value relationship building and thus have turned in a very success sales career.

One that in the past 10 years, I have not seen a W2 less than 120K.

I share that in open forum, only because in 1998 I lost an average job.

Where I was making 44K.

My wife worked and she make 16K.

I lost my job and it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

I opened my front door and realized..... what do I want to do?

Now with all that change already haven taken place in my life.

The democrats will most likely take more of my money.

Between the years of 2004 and 2007.

I gave after ajusted gross income and tax returns.

155K to the federal gov in net taxes.

Not including my Social Security and Medicare taxes I paid.

If I had the 155K in my pocket today.

I Could pay off my home and 2 cars.

But to the 40% of people in this country who pay no taxes on their net income.

Here comes some more of my money....

I might as well add their names to the deed of my property.
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Old 10-31-2008, 06:31 PM
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Re: I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

I guess I am jaded,but most of these pictures were taken to portray Obama in a compassionate, softer way. I do like a lot of things that Obama has to say, but I wonder about his ability to deliver on the promises. jmho
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:31 PM
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Re: I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

Yes, it's possible that you are a bit jaded.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:50 PM
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Re: I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

Political photo ops. My youngest daughter had her picture taken with a candidate for Governor of Texas, when she was little.
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Old 10-31-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

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... I actually thought these pictures of him with these kids were kinda nice.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_139183.html

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Even though he feels they are a punishment, give me a break.
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:17 AM
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Even though he feels they are a punishment, give me a break.
I think it's important to put Obama's statement in context. While addressing a campaign rally in Pennsylvania, Sen. Obama said, "When it comes specifically to HIV/AIDS, the most important prevention is education, which should include -- which should include abstinence education and teaching the children -- teaching children, you know, that sex is not something casual," he said.

"But it should also include -- it should also include other, you know, information about contraception because, look, I've got two daughters. 9 years old and 6 years old," he added.

"I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby," Obama said.

Obama's statement about being punished with a child is based on a radical right wing idea. It's often argued that a woman who has a crisis pregnancy, "asked for it", by committing the sin. The right wing notion is that becoming pregnant and giving birth is a just punishment upon the sinful woman. Obama's position is that it isn't right to "punish" a woman with a baby. Babies shouldn't be used as a weapon to punish women, women shouldn't be forced to give birth as a punishment for their sexual sin.

Obama didn't mean that children in general are a punishment.
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Old 11-01-2008, 08:49 AM
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I think it's important to put Obama's statement in context....

Obama's statement about being punished with a child is based on a radical right wing idea. It's often argued that a woman who has a crisis pregnancy, "asked for it", by committing the sin. The right wing notion is that becoming pregnant and giving birth is a just punishment upon the sinful woman. Obama's position is that it isn't right to "punish" a woman with a baby. Babies shouldn't be used as a weapon to punish women, women shouldn't be forced to give birth as a punishment for their sexual sin.

Obama didn't mean that children in general are a punishment.
I think in putting his words "in context" you you've ended up [unnecessarily] adding somewhat to what the man meant. The so-called "context" you provide only serves to embellish the situation in such a way as to point the finger of blame away from Obama and onto the "right wing". Somehow in all your explanations it seems you just have to take a shot at the so-called right wing. Its absurd. Not surprising, though, of course. Your M.O. has been consistent, if nothing else, as the apparent defender of all things Democrat, Liberal, and Socialist.

Obama said what he said, period. No need to drag the right wing into this. It ain't necessary at all. The so-called right wing had nothing to do with what the man said.

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And I often wonder....why is it most liberals are quick to refer to people as "right wing", but rarely or never refer to themselves as "left wing" ? kinda strange.

How about it sir. Why is it that we've never seen you refer to the "radical left wing"... ever?
(rhetorical question,of course.., no response needed.)
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Old 11-01-2008, 12:48 PM
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Re: I'm not a Barack Obama fan but...

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And I often wonder....why is it most liberals are quick to refer to people as "right wing", but rarely or never refer to themselves as "left wing" ? kinda strange.

(rhetorical question,of course.., no response needed.)
Here is the explanation to that query...

"Anything even slightly right of center is officially a "Right wing extremist."
Anything left of center is "moderate or progressive"

By the way, "center" is NOT defined as "a bipartisan position unswayed by either view, a position taken by facts alone." No, center is defined as "halfway between the facts and the far left fringe."
That way, even those who my truly by in the center, can be deemed as "right wingers" and the only view accepted as the truth is that of the left.
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