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03-29-2007, 09:00 PM
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crakjak
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Is God Free to Not Chose to Love and Save All...?
....or, is He constrained by the very nature of His being, is God bound to love and save all?
If God loves you and desires the very best for you, how could sending your children, parents or other loved ones to "endless torment" or extermination, be consistent with loving and desiring the best for you?? Will He not instead by His love and power bring all your loved ones to salvation as well?
Is wiping your memory of your loved ones loving? Why instead wouldn't God simply continue pursuing your loved ones until they surrender to His irresistible love.
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03-29-2007, 09:11 PM
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Something to think about.......
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03-30-2007, 12:09 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by CupCake
Something to think about.......
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Have you decided what you think about this?
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03-30-2007, 12:18 AM
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His Righteousness demands true and merciful judgment. We know He can do whatever he chooses to do. But there are some things He will not do because of WHO He is.
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03-30-2007, 12:33 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by rrford
His Righteousness demands true and merciful judgment. We know He can do whatever he chooses to do. But there are some things He will not do because of WHO He is.
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Granted. GOD IS LOVE.
He is the FIRST cause, has He caused something that requires unmerciful punishment?
Man comes into this sin infected world with "brain damage" toward righteousness, so he is "handicapped". In this context if he does not find the right combination of belief......? Does seventy sinful years, truly and mercifully, equal endless damnation?
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03-30-2007, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Granted. GOD IS LOVE.
He is the FIRST cause, has He caused something that requires unmerciful punishment?
Man comes into this sin infected world with "brain damage" toward righteousness, so he is "handicapped". In this context if he does not find the right combination of belief......? Does seventy sinful years, truly and mercifully, equal endless damnation?:winkgrin
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Does 70 years of self-willed living and rejection of the love of God equate to temporary damnation?
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03-31-2007, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Have you decided what you think about this?
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Not really, you???
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03-31-2007, 10:03 PM
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crakjak
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: dallas area
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Originally Posted by CupCake
Not really, you???
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I have been posting what I think about this subject, just wondering if you had any input?
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04-01-2007, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
I have been posting what I think about this subject, just wondering if you had any input?
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Sure but it cost you.... I think I'll just view for now.
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03-29-2007, 09:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by crakjak
....or, is He constrained by the very nature of His being, is God bound to love and save all?
If God loves you and desires the very best for you, how could sending your children, parents or other loved ones to "endless torment" or extermination, be consistent with loving and desiring the best for you?? Will He not instead by His love and power bring all your loved ones to salvation as well?
Is wiping your memory of your loved ones loving? Why instead wouldn't God simply continue pursuing your loved ones until they surrender to His irresistible love.
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Did you know Origen taught unconditional salvation also?
Is God a just God? Can God lie?
Isa 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
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