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10-01-2008, 05:39 PM
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Political Q
Okay folks, I am sure we have hashed this out, but I gotta ask in all fairness. Will I go to hell for voting for Barack Obama who is a staunch supporter of abortion (baby murderer)? Or will I go to hell for voting for John McCain who is a staunch war supporter (soldier killer)? Isn't it the same one way or the other? Why? Why not?
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10-01-2008, 05:42 PM
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Incredible India
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Re: Political Q
I dont know did David go to hell because he fought in wars?
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10-01-2008, 05:49 PM
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Re: Political Q
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I dont know did David go to hell because he fought in wars?
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Hmmmmmm, David allowed a soldier to die in battle, does that make it right?
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10-01-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: Political Q
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Okay folks, I am sure we have hashed this out, but I gotta ask in all fairness. Will I go to hell for voting for Barack Obama who is a staunch supporter of abortion (baby murderer)? Or will I go to hell for voting for John McCain who is a staunch war supporter (soldier killer)? Isn't it the same one way or the other? Why? Why not?
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Bro. E, since you posed the question first, tell us... what do YOU think regarding this topic?
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10-01-2008, 07:17 PM
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Re: Political Q
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Bro. E, since you posed the question first, tell us... what do YOU think regarding this topic?
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I'm afraid that if I answer the question, this thread will die out before its time. LOL! But, I guess I'll answer. I am having a tough time deciding which one to vote for because I have had it with politicians. I really don't care for liberals; however, it seems that both McCain and Obama have their own discrepencies and I have to vote for one of them (although no one is forcing me to vote for either). I wonder if I have to vote this time based upon my conscience, because if I do, then both of these clowns fall way short of deserving my vote. I am trying to explore my options without involving my personal convictions about either McCain or Obama. I also worry that if I vote for Barr that I might as well have not even wasted my time at the polls. My American duty is not so appealing right now.
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10-01-2008, 08:18 PM
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Re: Political Q
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Okay folks, I am sure we have hashed this out, but I gotta ask in all fairness. Will I go to hell for voting for Barack Obama who is a staunch supporter of abortion (baby murderer)? Or will I go to hell for voting for John McCain who is a staunch war supporter (soldier killer)? Isn't it the same one way or the other? Why? Why not?
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NOt that it's a justification, but a baby has no choice in its own murder under abortion. A soldier willingly joined the armed forces knowing war was a possibility.
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10-01-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: Political Q
You need to read the platforms of both parties & decide based on what party platform you identify with the most. IMO, the specific candidate matters less than voting for the party whose ideals you agree with more.
You can find the party platforms at the websites for the National Democratic & Republican party.
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10-01-2008, 08:26 PM
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10-01-2008, 10:51 PM
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Re: Political Q
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NOt that it's a justification, but a baby has no choice in its own murder under abortion. A soldier willingly joined the armed forces knowing war was a possibility.
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Yeah I think that the situation with abortion and a whimsical warmonger is not comparable, for your dilemma-- akin to comparing apples and rutabagas.
Most folks I know DON'T vote the Party Line just for the sake of voting the Party Line. They usually have convictions (some shallow, some deep, some nonsense) to go along with WHO they choose.
I don't suggest you vote Republican just for the sake of voting Republican. Vote Republican because you believe in Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin to be competent leaders, taking the country in the direction you want it go.
If you don't think that way, then don't vote for them. You will not be the only Republican NOT voting for Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.
This isn't a Heaven or Hell issue. Don't let someone use their religion to manipulate your politics.
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10-02-2008, 06:16 AM
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Re: Political Q
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This isn't a Heaven or Hell issue.
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Some of us believe that it is a sin to go against our convictions. Just because it might not be H or H for you doesn't mean it can't be for the next guy. We will all be held accountable at judgment for EVERY DECISION we made.
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I don't suggest you vote Republican just for the sake of voting Republican. Vote Republican because you believe in Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin to be competent leaders, taking the country in the direction you want it go.
If you don't think that way, then don't vote for them. You will not be the only Republican NOT voting for Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin.
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Keep in mind that defeating Obama and his blatantly destructive policy proposals, and positioning Sarah Palin for a prominent political career, are both worthy goals and ends unto themselves.
I would also like to point out the radical leftists in this country aren't going to experience some crisis of conscience over one or two party planks and sit this one out. They are going to be foaming at the mouth and first in line to vote for Obama. Because they are all about defeating YOU. At some point we must consider whether the one-sided requirement of the purity of the candidate isn't self-defeating.
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Don't let someone use their religion to manipulate your politics.
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Amen. And don't let someone use YOUR religion to manipulate you in ANY WAY AT ALL.
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