Blue Denim Whales at Ladies Conferences

[Nahum]

How would you feel if you went into a Ladies Conference weighing about 30-50 lbs too much and the speaker screamed for an hour about how sinful it is to be overweight?

Is that type of "preaching" appropriate?

[Nahum]

What if you were obviously very obese?

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

What if you were obviously very obese?

This is one are I think we need to improve in. Gluttony is obvious a sin, it needs to be preached on more.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by QueenEsther

This is one are I think we need to improve in. Gluttony is obvious a sin, it needs to be preached on more.

How many people do you know are overweight because they overeat?

Isn't overeating subjective anyway?

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

How many people do you know are overweight because they overeat?

Isn't overeating subjective anyway?

overeating isnt the root of the problem.

Good stewarship with the body God gave us is the issue.

most people, I think, are overweight b/c we eat more than we burn off....

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Theresa

overeating isnt the root of the problem.

Good stewarship with the body God gave us is the issue.

most people, I think, are overweight b/c we eat more than we burn off....

While that might be true, I know people who have to eat massive amounts of food to keep weight on and I also know people who eat like birds and gain weight.

And I wouldn't say 'most people'. There are lots of reasons to be overweight and sometimes it has nothing to do with food or metabolism. A bad heart, for instance, can make someone appear to be overweight but it's actually fluid retention. A bad liver can make someone appear overweight. Kidney failure can do the same.

Just some examples.

[jillian]

Someday they will find out it is more than about food. There a lot of different dynamics going on.

Metabolism, genetics, how our bodies process, and respond to food.(in cases of diabetics, hypoglycemics.)


I was reading this info the other day:

World Health Orginazation, Consultation on Obesity reported:

"Obesity is a chronic disease, prevalent in both developed and developing countries, and affecting children as well as adults. Indeed it is so common that it is replacing the more traditional public health concerns, including undernutrition and infectious diseases, as one of the most significant contributors to ill health."

The WHO publishes the International Classification of Diseases (ICD-9-CM), which lists Obesity and Other Hyperalimentation as an Endocrine, Nutritional, Metabolic and Immunity Disease. The ICD-9-CM is recommended for use in all clinical settings, and is required for reporting diagnoses and diseases to all U.S. Public Health Service and Health Care Financing Administration programs. The World Health Organization recently included the Metabolic Syndrome in ICD-10 (#277). Obesity is a component of the Metabolic Syndrome

http://www.obesity.org/treatment/obesity.shtml

When I was a young girl I lost a large amount of weight by starving myself. I was anorexic and bulimic for many years. ( I can not believe I am telling this) When I was overcoming this battle, I never could eat more than one meal a day without gaining my weight back. I ruined my metabolism.

When I became pregnant I started to eat (I wanted a child more than anything) All the weight came back on. Over the course of my life my weight has yo yoed.

There are different things that cause lung cancer, ex ,smoking, mining, asbestose etc..... Same way with weight, different reasons cause the same result.

I think gluttony is when you overeat to the point of stuffing your self.
I have seen thin gluttons. In my opinion everyone who is overweight is not a glutton. Everyone who drinks is not an alcoholic.

Gluttony: one who eats to excess. one eager of anything to excess.

Once again Moderation is all things....

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

How many people do you know are overweight because they overeat?

Isn't overeating subjective anyway?

Quite a few. My whole family on my mother's side and my husband's side are overweight and it is from overeating.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by QueenEsther

Quite a few. My whole family on my mother's side and my husband's side are overweight and it is from overeating.

Are you sure?

Not that I'm denying that, because eating habits and culture among other things are certainly factors, but being overweight is also hereditary even when one eats right.

My reason for saying it's subjective is that, we can look at someone eating and think they are eating too much, but how do we know?

I eat less than a 2 yr old and will for the rest of my life. If I eat more than that, I'll be overeating. I cannot look at someone who is 30 pounds overweight and think they are eating too much based on my perception of 'overeating'. Know what I mean?

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

How would you feel if you went into a Ladies Conference weighing about 30-50 lbs too much and the speaker screamed for an hour about how sinful it is to be overweight?

Is that type of "preaching" appropriate?

If it is gluttony - yes. If not then don't worry about it.