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07-31-2008, 06:37 PM
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Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
Have you heard the argument that Jesus had facial hair only because it was many days or weeks (your choice) in between his transfer from the custody of Pilate to Herod?
Per the KJV
Luke 23:1-16
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1And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.
2And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.
3And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest it.
4Then said Pilate to the chief priests and to the people, I find no fault in this man.
5And they were the more fierce, saying, He stirreth up the people, teaching throughout all Jewry, beginning from Galilee to this place.
6When Pilate heard of Galilee, he asked whether the man were a Galilaean.
7And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.
8And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long season, because he had heard many things of him; and he hoped to have seen some miracle done by him.
9Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.
10And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused him.
11And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked him, and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate.
12And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.
13And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people,
14Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined him before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him:
15No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.
16I will therefore chastise him, and release him.
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07-31-2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
Jesus had facial hair because he was a Jew. It would be pretty hard to not mar the sides of a beard you didn't have.
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07-31-2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
How sharp were the razors back then... did you have to use a stone?
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07-31-2008, 06:40 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
How sharp were the razors back then... did you have to use a stone?
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Barbers are mentioned in the Bible, so they had some way of cutting hair.
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07-31-2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Originally Posted by Rico
Barbers are mentioned in the Bible, so they had some way of cutting hair.
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Whatever they had, I'm sure it was a painful process that was not done on a daily basis by the average male...
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07-31-2008, 06:45 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
Whatever they had, I'm sure it was a painful process that was not done on a daily basis by the average male...
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Maybe those who wanted to shave had mini-swords or something. My guess is that all the mean let the hair on their faces grow as long as it would grow.
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07-31-2008, 06:55 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Maybe those who wanted to shave had mini-swords or something. My guess is that all the mean let the hair on their faces grow as long as it would grow.
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So my friend Rico, is this going to be one of those letting it grow as long as it will being to mean uncut, or is this one of those long or the short of it Doctrines?
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07-31-2008, 07:23 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
Whatever they had, I'm sure it was a painful process that was not done on a daily basis by the average male...
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They had knives and swords that they kept sharp so why would a razor be out of the question and why would it have to be any more painful than today?
Many drawings from then and carvings show men without beards.
I am not making an arguement that Jesus didn't have one just that I do not believe it would have been any more difficult for them to shave as it is for us today. Maybe not as convient as today.
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07-31-2008, 07:26 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Originally Posted by jaxfam6
They had knives and swords that they kept sharp so why would a razor be out of the question and why would it have to be any more painful than today?
Many drawings from then and carvings show men without beards.
I am not making an arguement that Jesus didn't have one just that I do not believe it would have been any more difficult for them to shave as it is for us today. Maybe not as convient as today.
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I realize that knives and swords would be sharp, but still not the same as my Gillette Mach 3 and some good shaving cream. Back then, shaving was kinda the Roman thing to do, wasn't it? They all wanted their faces to look like little boys... because, well... I won't go there...
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07-31-2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: Argument why Jesus had facial hair?
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Originally Posted by Brad Murphy
Whatever they had, I'm sure it was a painful process that was not done on a daily basis by the average male...
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Egyptians were shaving long before Jesus’ time. Ever see their pyramids? If they can erect such edifices without modern machinery, not having a Gillette razor or a septic stick was no problem for them! And I am sure it was mostly painless....
But regardless of the history of shaving, I’m very thankful I don’t have to resort to the ‘ancient’ methods.
As far as the subject of this thread; that argument is one of the silliest things I've ever heard!
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