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07-26-2008, 09:42 PM
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Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Conference?
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07-26-2008, 09:48 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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In 1913, during the Assembly Of God General Assembly, a great controversy arose regarding the so-called "new issue" that water baptism was to be administered in "the Name of Jesus Christ" rather than in "the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." The majority of the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World community accepted both the liturgical change and a "Jesus Name" or Oneness approach to understanding God.
Among those who accepted the Oneness doctrine in the early period was Elder Garfield Thomas Haywood, an African American minister from Indianapolis, who pastored a very successful Pentecostal church on Indianapolis that had, in 1913, between 400-500 members. The racial make up of the congregation was about 50% African American and 50% white. The name of the church was Christ Temple Apostolic Faith Assembly.
Christ Temple was one of the largest Pentecostal churches and congregations in the world. Bishop Haywood was rebaptized in the name of Jesus in approximately 1913. Subsequently, he rebaptized his entire congregation.
I wonder what Daniel would say about this?
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07-26-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
I don't understand your point in all of this?
why wouldn't we have GT Haywood preach in our church
he was one of the early pioneers??
what's the controversy because of his facial hair ??
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07-27-2008, 08:08 AM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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In 1913, during the Assembly Of God General Assembly, a great controversy arose regarding the so-called "new issue" that water baptism was to be administered in "the Name of Jesus Christ" rather than in "the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost." The majority of the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World community accepted both the liturgical change and a "Jesus Name" or Oneness approach to understanding God.
Among those who accepted the Oneness doctrine in the early period was Elder Garfield Thomas Haywood, an African American minister from Indianapolis, who pastored a very successful Pentecostal church on Indianapolis that had, in 1913, between 400-500 members. The racial make up of the congregation was about 50% African American and 50% white. The name of the church was Christ Temple Apostolic Faith Assembly.
Christ Temple was one of the largest Pentecostal churches and congregations in the world. Bishop Haywood was rebaptized in the name of Jesus in approximately 1913. Subsequently, he rebaptized his entire congregation.
I wonder what Daniel would say about this?
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I, of course never met him, far to young. He wrote a song that many churches used to sing. I had read much about him. My father had great respect for him. He was, from all accounts, a might man of God.
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07-26-2008, 09:50 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
Gasp!
He has facial hair!
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07-26-2008, 09:54 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Gasp!
He has facial hair!
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The powers that be would cite the passage in the Bible where Timothy was circumcised for the sake of ministering to those whom that was important to.
Using that passage and the "follow peace with all men" scripture, they would insist that he shaved before preaching at GC.
That's what I think would happen, JMHO.
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07-26-2008, 09:59 PM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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The powers that be would cite the passage in the Bible where Timothy was circumcised for the sake of ministering to those whom that was important to.
Using that passage and the "follow peace with all men" scripture, they would insist that he shaved before preaching at GC.
That's what I think would happen, JMHO.
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Yes, and what would happen if he didn't shave? lol
A tribunal would convene.
The fact is, facial hair wasn't a problem until the late sixties, early seventies.
So much for THAT "precious truth."
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07-27-2008, 01:14 AM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Yes, and what would happen if he didn't shave? lol
A tribunal would convene.
The fact is, facial hair wasn't a problem until the late sixties, early seventies.
So much for THAT "precious truth."
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Verrry true. My father was baptized and received the HG approx Jan 1,1931. He was 16. Based on pictures and conversations, he had a mustache most of his adult life. He held positions in the church and was a faithful active member.
In early 1970's there was a pastor change AND he brought many "changes". The board members were asked to get rid of their TV's and my dad had to shave off his mustache.
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07-27-2008, 07:08 AM
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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The powers that be would cite the passage in the Bible where Timothy was circumcised for the sake of ministering to those whom that was important to.
Using that passage and the "follow peace with all men" scripture, they would insist that he shaved before preaching at GC.
That's what I think would happen, JMHO.
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That would just be a mis-use of scripture. In this context, to them, "follow peace with all men" would mean "submit to man made extra-biblical rules of men, no matter how dumb the rule is, just to keep peace with them" (rather than take a stand against their man-made foolishness!).
Personally, I've had facial hair as long as I can remember, and have no intention of shaving it all off anytime soon. If any pastor told me I could come preach for him but only if I become clean shaven, I'd tell him to take a hike, and have a nice day ( not using those words, of course).
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Re: Would This Man be Welcome to Preach at Confere
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Gasp!
He has facial hair!
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I guess he would be welcome now, wouldn't he?
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