Is "One-Step" Closer To Hell?

[1Corinth2v4]

I believe in the divine three-step mandate of repentance, water baptism, and Holy Ghost infilling to enter heaven. Also, I become weary hearing and reading one-stepper illustrations of the "what if theory." Here's a question for you one-steppers.

There's an atheist, the son of a Pentecostal preacher traveling via airplane and finally accepts the message of Jesus Christ. The atheist states he'll repent of his sins after landing, while in the presence of his father, and the airplane then explodes in mid-air.

Would God send a Pentecostal's preacher boy to hell after his determination was to repent in the presence of his physical father, that his physical father might rejoice with him, in the presence of a mighty merciful God?

I mean, surely, the same merciful God that saves a person after their determination to get baptized, and yet dies in a plane crash before being baptized, this very same merciful God will save a sinner whose determination was to repent, but dies in a plane crash, correct?

This is the same logic you one-steppers utilize, so your answer should be undoubtedly swift.

[deltaguitar]

I prefer to take one from the three-steppers. "We just do what the bible says, and if it says it I am gonna do it".

[RandyWayne]

It is not the same logic.

Saying you'll repent "after" something is not repenting at all. Had he repented while in the plane only to have to explode seconds or minutes later, I think he would be in pretty good hands.

It's a pretty weak "rebuttal".

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

It is not the same logic.

Saying you'll repent "after" something is not repenting at all. Had he repented while in the plane only to have to explode seconds or minutes later.

The atheist had determined to repent, without any doubt when in the presence of his father. The atheist was sincere in his actions.

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I think he would be in pretty good hands.

Likewise, if the repented person had been baptized when he/she repented, they might of been well off too before dying in a plane-crash.


All the same logic.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

The atheist had determined to repent, without any doubt when in the presence of his father. The atheist was sincere in his actions.



Likewise, if the repented person had been baptized when he/she repented, they might of been well off too before dying in a plane-crash.


All the same logic.

For you not to see how misguided your premise is, is to mean that you have fallen totally into a TRUE works based salvation consisting of no more than "First, press button 1, then button 2, then button 3 and bingo. Saved!".
Grace, mercy, and most importantly, the cross -has left your building.

[StillStanding]

Repentance is a frame of mind. If he planned to repent in front of his earthly father, he has repented to God.

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Repentance is a frame of mind. If he planned to repent in front of his earthly father, he has repented to God.

The atheist has planned to repent before dying. He was going to inquire of his father the proper method of repentence.


Changing your mind has nothing to do with changing your heart and/or sorrowing over and hating your sin.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by 1Corinth2v4

The atheist has planned to repent before dying. He was going to inquire of his father the proper method of repentence"


Frame of mind has nothing to do with changing your heart and/or sorrowing over and hating your sin.

Thank you then He did not accept the Gospel ... or perhaps understand it ... if he had truly believed ... he would have repented ...

The changing of heart ... btw, 1 Cor ... is done by the quickening of God's regenerative spirit of heart that surrenders to being born from above ...

Another huge failure in explaining what repentance is and who does the changing.

1 Cor ... what is faith ...?? What is repentance?

Basics in presenting the Gospel ... please enlighten us.

More confirmation that the 3 stepper causes his own salvation

[1Corinth2v4]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Thank you then He did not accept the Gospel ... or perhaps understand it ... if he had truly believed ... he would have repented ...

Daniel,

He had accepted the gospel, and was awaiting the direction of his physical father to further his steps in Christ.


If the one-stepper had truly repented, they would have obeyed the gospel by arising and washing away their sins (Acts 22:16).

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Repentance is a frame of mind. If he planned to repent in front of his earthly father, he has repented to God.

There is more to repentance than an intent to repent, and it is more than a frame of mind PM. That is like making conditions for salvation. I will if.