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07-09-2008, 05:16 PM
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Where Was Samuel ?
And Samuel said to Saul,Why hast thou disquited me,to bring me up ? And Saul answered I am sore distressed;for the Phillistines to make war agains't me,and God is departed from me,and answereth no more,neither by prophets,nor by dreams,therefore I have called thee,that thou make known unto me what I shall do. 1.SAM.28:15
OK we know the familiar account how Saul contacted a woman from En-dor with a familiar spirit to contact Samuel see 1 Samuel 28.
My question is where was Samuel when he was contacted,what was he in sheol a place of departed spirits awaiting a resurrection,just where was Samuel resting ? Was he in soul sleep ?
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07-09-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
That wasn't Samuel. It was an evil spirit, who was familiar with him, when he was alive, masquerading as Samuel. The Witch of En-dor had a familiar spirit.
But to answer your question, "Where was Samuel?" He was in Abraham's Bosom. That's where the souls of dead people went, before Jesus' death and resurrection.
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07-09-2008, 07:23 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
Did you get this thought from a source or is it your own?
Bro Larry
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07-09-2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Did you get this thought from a source or is it your own?
Bro Larry
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I think he makes it up as he goes along. If you read the text, it clearly says Samuel was speaking to Saul.
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07-09-2008, 08:43 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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I think he makes it up as he goes along. If you read the text, it clearly says Samuel was speaking to Saul.
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The "familiar" spirit fooled both Saul, and the witch. I'm beginning to wonder about Rico????? Nooooootttt! Rico, I know you don't really believe that? or do you?
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07-09-2008, 08:59 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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The "familiar" spirit fooled both Saul, and the witch. I'm beginning to wonder about Rico????? Nooooootttt! Rico, I know you don't really believe that? or do you?
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I believe what the Bible says, and it says that Samuel was speaking to Saul. I am not into rewriting the Word of God to suit my thoughts on what should or shouldn't be. Once we start changing what the Word of God says there's no stopping the editing. Very dangerous ground to build on.
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07-09-2008, 09:05 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
Here's a thought. God allowed it to happen, not that the witch could do it, for the purpose of one last rebuke of Saul
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
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- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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07-12-2008, 09:32 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Originally Posted by Rico
I believe what the Bible says, and it says that Samuel was speaking to Saul. I am not into rewriting the Word of God to suit my thoughts on what should or shouldn't be. Once we start changing what the Word of God says there's no stopping the editing. Very dangerous ground to build on.
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You keep forgetting, Rico, it's not necessarily "the word of God" it's what King James I's transalators thought was the word of God.
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07-13-2008, 04:21 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
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Originally Posted by Rico
I believe what the Bible says, and it says that Samuel was speaking to Saul. I am not into rewriting the Word of God to suit my thoughts on what should or shouldn't be. Once we start changing what the Word of God says there's no stopping the editing. Very dangerous ground to build on.
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Are you saying that it's wrong to compare different versions? Which version is the right one?
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07-09-2008, 07:28 PM
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Re: Where Was Samuel ?
If this was the witches familiar spirit and not Samuel why did she react the way she did?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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