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Old 07-07-2008, 03:23 PM
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Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Put more plainly, is it possible for a person who smokes/uses tobacco products to truly be a Christian? Is it possible for that person to be saved while still smoking/chewing/dipping? Why or why not?
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Yes.

While they might be committing a sin against their health they can still be a child of God. However, I don't think it is God's will that any should remain in bondage and any addiction IMO keeps us in bondage.
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:32 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

Of course not.

Just send me a list and I'll write "yes" or "no" next to every single activity.
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:14 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

1 Cor 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


Does destroy mean lost because tobacco products defile the temple of God.
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:19 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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1 Cor 3:16-17 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.


Does destroy mean lost because tobacco products defile the temple of God.
Are you sure the word "defile" refers to a physical defilement, or a spiritual defilement?
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Are you sure the word "defile" refers to a physical defilement, or a spiritual defilement?
is it either/or or both?
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is it either/or or both?
Well, if it refers to physical defilement, we have a lot more to worry about than tobacco. Stuff like artificial sweeteners, preservatives, red meat, excess food intake, carbonated sodas, caffeine, and the list goes on.......
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Well, if it refers to physical defilement, we have a lot more to worry about than tobacco. Stuff like artificial sweeteners, preservatives, red meat, excess food intake, carbonated sodas, caffeine, and the list goes on.......
14 When He had called all the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear Me, everyone, and understand: 15 There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man. 16 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!”
17 When He had entered a house away from the crowd, His disciples asked Him concerning the parable. 18 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?” 20 And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.”
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Well, if it refers to physical defilement, we have a lot more to worry about than tobacco. Stuff like artificial sweeteners, preservatives, red meat, excess food intake, carbonated sodas, caffeine, and the list goes on.......
The Bible says we can eat beef, so leave it off'm yer list!!!
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Re: Can A Person Be A Smoker & Still Be Saved

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Are you sure the word "defile" refers to a physical defilement, or a spiritual defilement?
physical defilement................our body is the temple.


1 Cor 6:19-20 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
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