Maybe it is time to move on?

[Steve Epley]

It seems this forum is slding very quickly into an antigonistic forum to Pentecostal doctrine in general with the remarks of Jesus being a magic name and the defence of the statement I feel uncomfortable with this. I ahve never threatened and this is not a threat. I am going to cease from posting for a season I might lurk. But I am beginning to doubt if I should be here. The what I see as 'hatred' toward Pentecost is general is becoming more and more open and vicious. Maybe this will become an ex-Pentecostal site where disgruntles can cast stones at the womb that gave them birth. Healthy and heated discussions are one thing but this continual and more and more aggressive posts which are laden with anti-Pentecostalism is general is becoming more than I can bear. It is becoming harder to leave these asaults at the computer I do not want to carry them with me. I pray for each of you that seem to have been hurt beyond repair that somewhere the God of Heaven will heal your hurts and wounds that you might again be restored to the Apostolic fatih. This could very well be my last post on this forum. So farewell in case I don't return.

[freeatlast]

First COOP....now you?

You will reamin in my thoughts and prayers Elder.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

First COOP....now you?

You will reamin in my thoughts and prayers Elder.

Did you read that article by Chester Wright? What he said is so true and very much evident here. We got folks saying the board is not conservative enough and others that think it's not liberal enough and because they don't get THEIR way over the other group they are not happy campers. THOSE individuals make it impossible to have a board that accommodates all.

Why does Truth need to hide? If someone comes here and states opposition to a doctrine Apostolics believe we should be able to refute them with scripture and intelligence...not emotional rantings and then take our toys and leave when we don't have our way.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Did you read that article by Chester Wright? What he said is so true and very much evident here. We got folks saying the board is not conservative enough and others that think it's not liberal enough and because they don't get THEIR way over the other group they are not happy campers. THOSE individuals make it impossible to have a board that accommodates all.

Why does Truth need to hide? If someone comes here and states opposition to a doctrine Apostolics believe we should be able to refute them with scripture and intelligence...not emotional rantings and then take our toys and leave when we don't have our way.

Good post Prax!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Did you read that article by Chester Wright? What he said is so true and very much evident here. We got folks saying the board is not conservative enough and others that think it's not liberal enough and because they don't get THEIR way over the other group they are not happy campers. THOSE individuals make it impossible to have a board that accommodates all.

Why does Truth need to hide? If someone comes here and states opposition to a doctrine Apostolics believe we should be able to refute them with scripture and intelligence...not emotional rantings and then take our toys and leave when we don't have our way.

PRAX: that article is a master piece. A very good read indeed.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

PRAX: that article is a master piece. A very good read indeed.

Alas, I cannot open it. My computer here at home is bogged down, and needs to be wiped clean, so I can't get it to open.

[OGIA]

It was a good article. Masterpiece? Nah.

stmatthew, you've heard it before. He sets his stance up with a bunch of ooey-gooey stuff. Yeah, the "stuff" is true, but it in no way validates his position. He accuses the ones holding to the original and CONTINUED stance of the UPC to be anti-TV as being the divisive ones. He rings much like most of that belief -- his "rights" are being violated, but please don't be offended that he wants to change things; "let's still be brothers!"

I have no problem with it. In fact, I told my pastor this morning about the article and what he wrote about some more conservative types considering men like him "not" brothers anymore. I think that is wrong, but it's just as wrong as him wanting to change the status quo and calling those who don't "divisive".

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Alas, I cannot open it. My computer here at home is bogged down, and needs to be wiped clean, so I can't get it to open.

It's a PDF file...do you have a PDF reader?

[Rhymis]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It seems this forum is slding very quickly into an antigonistic forum to Pentecostal doctrine in general with the remarks of Jesus being a magic name and the defence of the statement I feel uncomfortable with this. I ahve never threatened and this is not a threat. I am going to cease from posting for a season I might lurk. But I am beginning to doubt if I should be here. The what I see as 'hatred' toward Pentecost is general is becoming more and more open and vicious. Maybe this will become an ex-Pentecostal site where disgruntles can cast stones at the womb that gave them birth. Healthy and heated discussions are one thing but this continual and more and more aggressive posts which are laden with anti-Pentecostalism is general is becoming more than I can bear. It is becoming harder to leave these asaults at the computer I do not want to carry them with me. I pray for each of you that seem to have been hurt beyond repair that somewhere the God of Heaven will heal your hurts and wounds that you might again be restored to the Apostolic fatih. This could very well be my last post on this forum. So farewell in case I don't return.

My sentiments exactly. I often scan threads here and more and more there is an overwhelming mockery of things I hold godly. I doubt that I will even stop to read anymore--much less post.

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It seems this forum is slding very quickly into an antigonistic forum to Pentecostal doctrine in general with the remarks of Jesus being a magic name and the defence of the statement I feel uncomfortable with this. I ahve never threatened and this is not a threat. I am going to cease from posting for a season I might lurk. But I am beginning to doubt if I should be here. The what I see as 'hatred' toward Pentecost is general is becoming more and more open and vicious. Maybe this will become an ex-Pentecostal site where disgruntles can cast stones at the womb that gave them birth. Healthy and heated discussions are one thing but this continual and more and more aggressive posts which are laden with anti-Pentecostalism is general is becoming more than I can bear. It is becoming harder to leave these asaults at the computer I do not want to carry them with me. I pray for each of you that seem to have been hurt beyond repair that somewhere the God of Heaven will heal your hurts and wounds that you might again be restored to the Apostolic fatih. This could very well be my last post on this forum. So farewell in case I don't return.

The dynamic you are experiencing is similar to the frustration I was feeling last night. There are times when only a handful of people are on the forum and those handfuls are of the same ilk, so they create post after post after post and thread simply piling on agreeing with one another. Conservatives and liberals do the same thing.

I was told something just yesterday by a Pastor that YOU know, and it shocked me. The confusion on my face caused him to say it a second time, and frankly I am still trying to reconcile it.

He said, "The word of God is not God." I understand having a knowledge of scripture and lack the power behind it, but he was almost relating that the spirit is stronger than the word. It was pretty scary in fact, because I was lamenting that kids nowadays have no knowledge of scripture. He was saying it is more important that these kids have a more spiritual conscience than a conscience toward the word.


People say all kinds of dumb stuff...let them, but don't deprive those of us who drink in and absorb what you have to say, and choose to argue once in a while on the basis of scripture.